From: Jonathan Morton <chromi@cyberspace.org>
To: Leo Spalteholz <bspalteh@jetstream.net>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: RE: The new X-Kernel !
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 06:17:33 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a05100300b7f95baa5d5a@[192.168.239.101]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20011021150919.00a57a60@mail.jetstream.net>
In-Reply-To: <20011021220346.D19390@vega.digitel2002.hu> <5.0.2.1.2.20011021150919.00a57a60@mail.jetstream.net>
At 3:14 pm -0700 21/10/2001, Leo Spalteholz wrote:
>>This side thread is funny, everyone here is thinking too much like a
>>developer :)
>>
>>Normal users really don't need to see the startup message spam on boot,
>>unless there is an error (at which point it should be able to present
>>the error to the user). Any kind of of progress indicator' s really
>>more for feedback that the boot is proceeding ok. The fact the boot
>>sequence isn't even interactive should also be a big hint that it isn't
>>really necessary (except for kernel and driver developers).
>
>
>I agree that for the normal user, plain messages are useless.. I
>remember something in Mandrake (7.0?), what they did is print a
>green [OK] after every message and a red [ERROR] when something
>failed.. This was great for a quick visual check.. As soon as you
>see something red scroll past you know there's something wrong and
>you can check it later..
>So this should really be left up to the distros..
That's been in there since at least Red Hat 6.0, and has spread to
all the derivatives, including mkLinux, Mandrake, Yellow Dog et al.
I agree, it's a great system, even though it only works once the
System V scripts start going. If the kernel could do something like
that (maybe with a "pretty" argument via LILO, and a compile-time
option), it'd make the boot sequence a little less forbidding to
(l)users.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-10-22 5:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-10-20 21:30 MichaelM
2001-10-20 21:43 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-10-21 0:08 ` Aaron Lehmann
2001-10-21 7:37 ` Gábor Lénárt
2001-10-21 12:54 ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-21 15:37 ` john slee
2001-10-21 19:04 ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-21 20:03 ` Gábor Lénárt
2001-10-21 21:06 ` LPP (was: The new X-Kernel !) Tim Jansen
2001-10-21 21:22 ` The new X-Kernel ! Federico Sevilla III
2001-10-21 21:31 ` Gábor Lénárt
2001-10-21 21:38 ` Sean Cavanaugh
2001-10-21 21:52 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-21 22:39 ` Oden Eriksson
2001-10-22 4:44 ` Sean Cavanaugh
2001-10-21 21:53 ` Gábor Lénárt
2001-10-21 22:19 ` LPP (was: The new X-Kernel !) Tim Jansen
2001-10-22 0:28 ` Jakob Østergaard
2001-10-22 0:57 ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-22 8:34 ` Abraham vd Merwe
2001-10-22 0:24 ` Ragnar Hojland Espinosa
2001-10-23 20:50 ` Petr Baudis
2001-10-30 2:18 ` Ragnar Hojland Espinosa
2001-10-22 9:37 ` Sunil Phatak
2001-10-22 9:47 ` Abraham vd Merwe
2001-10-22 14:33 ` MichaelM
2001-10-22 19:13 ` Mike Fedyk
2001-10-22 11:42 ` David Relson
2001-10-21 22:14 ` The new X-Kernel ! Leo Spalteholz
2001-10-22 5:17 ` Jonathan Morton [this message]
2001-10-21 16:09 ` Malcolm H. Teas
2001-10-21 19:04 ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-21 19:13 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2001-10-21 19:30 ` Gábor Lénárt
2001-10-21 19:49 ` J Sloan
2001-10-21 21:12 ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-21 21:20 ` D. Stimits
2001-10-21 21:41 ` Gábor Lénárt
2001-10-21 8:33 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-10-21 8:50 ` Gábor Lénárt
2001-10-21 9:13 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-10-21 17:06 ` James Simmons
2001-10-21 10:26 ` Allan Sandfeld
2001-10-21 14:19 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-21 17:18 ` James Simmons
2001-10-21 17:26 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-21 17:40 ` James Simmons
2001-10-21 19:17 ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-22 0:10 ` Jesse Pollard
2001-10-22 0:37 ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-22 17:18 ` James Simmons
2001-10-22 16:51 ` James Simmons
2001-10-22 18:35 ` Tim Jansen
2001-10-23 7:05 ` Allan Sandfeld
2001-10-21 19:53 ` Gábor Lénárt
2001-10-22 17:04 ` James Simmons
2001-10-23 6:45 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2001-10-22 5:42 ` Dwayne C. Litzenberger
2001-10-31 17:34 ` Jim Freeman
2001-10-21 21:44 Samium Gromoff
2001-10-21 22:01 ` Gábor Lénárt
[not found] <fa.fbu5gjv.1526gp4@ifi.uio.no>
[not found] ` <fa.ltbaijv.13jgcr7@ifi.uio.no>
2001-10-22 1:14 ` Dan Maas
2001-10-22 8:09 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-22 17:56 Jesse Pollard
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