From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
Dave Olson <olson@unixfolk.com>,
ccb@acm.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Peter Chubb <peter@chubb.wattle.id.au>
Subject: Re: [patch] increase spinlock-debug looping timeouts (write_lock and NMI)
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 02:27:24 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <449821EC.2080601@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44981164.3000406@yahoo.com.au>
Nick Piggin wrote:
> And either way, spinlocks are still much more costly than rwlocks,
> because they still have that first exclusive request, who's
> effectiveness deteriorates under load. That you *also* have these
> follow on shared accesses (which will need to be invalidated somehow
> later anyway), doesn't make them better than read locks.
I shouldn't say much more costly.... Much more costly when looking
at the limit case (and we traditionally rather look at the common
case in Linux, and in those cases spinlocks _can_ be faster).
However in the limit, spinlocks scale O(N), while readlocks scale
O(1), where N is the number of CPUs trying to take the lock.
AFAIKS.
But if they're causing stability problems, I have no arguments
against converting them to spinlocks. It might even result in a
worldwide net saving of CPU cycles, for what that's worth ;)
--
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-06-20 16:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2006-06-20 5:35 ` Dave Olson
2006-06-20 6:39 ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-20 6:53 ` Dave Jones
2006-06-20 7:37 ` Nick Piggin
2006-06-20 8:03 ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-20 8:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-20 9:37 ` Nick Piggin
2006-06-20 9:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-20 10:59 ` Nick Piggin
2006-06-20 13:04 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-06-20 13:28 ` update pci device id cckuo
2006-06-20 14:06 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-06-20 13:36 ` [patch] increase spinlock-debug looping timeouts (write_lock and NMI) Nick Piggin
2006-06-20 14:53 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-06-20 15:16 ` Nick Piggin
2006-06-20 16:27 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2006-06-20 8:43 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-06-20 16:11 ` Dave Olson
2006-06-20 21:10 ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-22 5:45 Dave Olson
2006-06-22 5:57 ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-23 7:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-23 16:27 Dave Olson
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