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From: Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>
To: Gabor Gombas <gombasg@sztaki.hu>
Cc: david@lang.hm, Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>,
	David Newall <david@davidnewall.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	Suparna Bhattacharya <suparna@in.ibm.com>,
	Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au>
Subject: Re: What still uses the block layer?
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:23:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4716452F.4080408@s5r6.in-berlin.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071017094838.GB18035@boogie.lpds.sztaki.hu>

Gabor Gombas wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 01:55:07PM -0700, david@lang.hm wrote:
>> why is this any different from the external enclosures? they have always 
>> appeared as the type of device that connects them to the motherboard, (and 
>> even with SCSI, there are some controllers that don't generate sdX devices)
> 
> In the past enclosures supported only one kind of connector so this
> assumption was fine. But nowadays an external disk may have several
> connectors (like USB, Firewire and eSata). Why should the disk's name
> depend on what type of cable did I manage to grab first? It is the
> _same_ disk regardless of the cable type.

Yes, but even udev won't give you one and the same symlink to the disk's
device file then.¹  There isn't a persistent unique target/unit property
which all of these transports have in common.

The only thing that could be common in the best case is the symlink to
the partition's device file, based on filesystem UUID or filesystem label.

¹) unless you write your own rule specific to this on particular enclosure
-- 
Stefan Richter
-=====-=-=== =-=- =---=
http://arcgraph.de/sr/

  reply	other threads:[~2007-10-17 17:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-12  1:11 Rob Landley
2007-10-13 22:05 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-14  5:54   ` David Newall
2007-10-14 17:46     ` Stefan Richter
2007-10-14 22:35       ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-10-14 23:36       ` Rob Landley
2007-10-15  1:23         ` Neil Brown
2007-10-15  5:44         ` Stefan Richter
2007-10-15  9:26           ` Rob Landley
2007-10-15 16:08             ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-15 17:10               ` Stefan Richter
2007-10-16  3:06                 ` david
2007-10-16  5:56                   ` Stefan Richter
2007-10-16 10:19                   ` Alan Cox
2007-10-16 19:54                     ` david
2007-10-16 19:54                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-16 20:18                         ` Stefan Richter
2007-10-16 20:34                         ` Theodore Tso
2007-10-16 20:56                           ` Stefan Richter
2007-10-16 20:55                         ` david
2007-10-16 21:49                           ` Alan Cox
2007-10-17  9:48                           ` Gabor Gombas
2007-10-17 17:23                             ` Stefan Richter [this message]
2007-10-17 21:04                             ` david
2007-10-15 20:29             ` Wilfried Klaebe
2007-10-14 22:24   ` James Bottomley
2007-10-14 23:45     ` Rob Landley
2007-10-15  1:45       ` Theodore Tso
2007-10-15  8:04         ` Rob Landley
2007-10-15  9:06           ` Julian Calaby
2007-10-15 10:08             ` Rob Landley
2007-10-15 17:33               ` Greg KH
2007-10-16  2:54                 ` david
2007-10-16  4:04                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-16  4:11                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-16  4:15                     ` david
2007-10-16  4:21                     ` Greg KH
2007-10-16  5:00                       ` david
     [not found]               ` <646765f40710150327i78519a0fvaea7a83d5975b180@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                 ` <200710151511.29748.rob@landley.net>
2007-10-15 23:49                   ` Julian Calaby
2007-10-15 10:32           ` Loïc Grenié
2007-10-15 21:09             ` Rob Landley
2007-10-15 11:19           ` Neil Brown
2007-10-15 21:34             ` Rob Landley
2007-10-15 21:46               ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-15 22:01               ` Alan Cox
2007-10-15 23:41               ` Neil Brown
2007-10-16  2:12                 ` david
2007-10-15 13:21           ` Theodore Tso
2007-10-15 13:29             ` Alan Cox
2007-10-15 13:35               ` Theodore Tso
2007-10-15 17:44               ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-15 14:46             ` Douglas Gilbert
2007-10-16  2:51             ` david
2007-10-15 13:37           ` OOM killer gripe (was Re: What still uses the block layer?) Nick Piggin
2007-10-15  9:52             ` Rob Landley
2007-10-15 15:08               ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-16  6:22                 ` David Newall
2007-10-20  9:48               ` Pavel Machek
2007-10-15 11:40             ` Theodore Tso
2007-10-20  9:50               ` Pavel Machek
2007-10-16  3:55             ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-16  4:10               ` david
2007-10-16  4:45                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-16  6:59               ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-16  4:38                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-16  6:38                   ` Rob Landley
2007-10-16  9:31                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-10-16 10:28                     ` Alan Cox
2007-10-16 23:59                       ` Rob Landley
2007-10-16  7:34                   ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-18 13:00                     ` Rogier Wolff
2007-10-19  6:49                       ` Rob Landley
2007-10-19  7:21                         ` Rogier Wolff
2007-10-16 20:37             ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-17  5:34           ` What still uses the block layer? Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-10-17  6:07             ` david
2007-10-15  6:00       ` Greg KH
2007-10-15  8:36         ` Rob Landley
2007-10-15 13:08           ` Alan Cox
2007-10-15 14:00           ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-15 18:56             ` Matthew Garrett
2007-10-15 17:25           ` Greg KH
2007-10-15 18:00             ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-10-15 18:46             ` Jeff Garzik
2007-10-16  6:33               ` Stefan Richter
2007-10-17 23:43               ` Bill Davidsen
2007-10-15 22:54             ` Rob Landley
2007-10-15  8:52         ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-10-15 13:10       ` James Bottomley
2007-10-15 21:51         ` Rob Landley
2007-10-15  0:45     ` Luben Tuikov
2007-10-15  6:51       ` Rob Landley
2007-10-15  8:37         ` Luben Tuikov

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