From: Nikolay Borisov <nik.borisov@suse.com>
To: "Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
"Gao, Chao" <chao.gao@intel.com>,
"Hansen, Dave" <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
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"kas@kernel.org" <kas@kernel.org>,
"Wu, Binbin" <binbin.wu@intel.com>,
"Li, Xiaoyao" <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Hunter, Adrian" <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
"Zhao, Yan Y" <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>,
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"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] x86/virt/tdx: Drop tdx_clflush_*()
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2026 21:07:12 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <486830fe-5b79-441e-bea4-c09241081923@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4527da9ddff360149bbc6ed8aadfc44dfc40c53b.camel@intel.com>
On 23.09.26 г. 19:26 ч., Edgecombe, Rick P wrote:
> On Wed, 2026-09-23 at 14:58 +0300, Nikolay Borisov wrote:
>> The code change itself is trivial, however nothing in the code being
>> removed is tied to CLFLUSH_BEFORE_ALLOC directly. And from the changelog
>> it's not entirely clear which those operations are (as per other
>> reviewers feedback). Looking at the TDX module spec that flag is
>> mentioned in relation to the following 3 operations:
>>
>> TDH.MEM.SEPT.ADD
>> TDH.MEM.PAGE.ADD
>> TDH.MEM.PAGE.AUG
>>
>> Whereas the patch also removes flushing from MNG_CREATE/VP_ADDCX/MNG_ADDCX
>
> The docs are a bit too ambiguous for my preference, but in the "ABI spec" it has
> this blurb:
> When allocating a memory page to be used as TD private memory or TD control
> structure page, the host VMM is required to ensure that none of the cache
> lines associated with the page is in a MODIFIED state.
>
> So those others should be covered by "TD control structures". It would have been
> nice if these bits were included in the base spec flows too. But I think it's a
> symptom of that this arch was never really needed.
>
> Similarly, for the system scoped memory that can have reclaim, I would have
> expected that the HW limitation reasoning would be the same as the TD scoped
> memory. But the docs are even less clear on that point. So the docs were never
> super clear on how this should work in general.
>
> Instead we have the original intention of the Linux code, and some recent
> promises from TDX arch folks:
> - CLFLUSH_BEFORE_ALLOC will not be set in the future
> - VMM is not required to call TDH.PHYMEM.PAGE.WBIND on page reclaim on any
> platforms supporting TDX.
>
> Does it seem sufficient?
In my opinion the above contains important historical detail and it
would be good that it's not lost so putting it, probably slightly
rephrased and/or summarised in the changelog will be beneficial.
>
>>
>>
>> So concrete references in the changelog would be much appreciated i.e
>> whether flushing for those 3 additional functions was because people
>> were overzealous, or they simply have been omitted from the public
>> documentation.
>
> I'll try to add something to the effect of the above, if it explains it enough.
Works for me, thanks!
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-23 18:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-22 20:52 [PATCH 0/2] Drop unneeded cache flushing Rick Edgecombe
2026-09-22 20:52 ` [PATCH 1/2] x86/virt/tdx: Drop tdx_clflush_*() Rick Edgecombe
2026-09-23 5:25 ` Yan Zhao
2026-09-23 7:30 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-23 7:47 ` Tony Lindgren
2026-09-23 15:50 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-23 11:58 ` Nikolay Borisov
2026-09-23 16:26 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-23 18:07 ` Nikolay Borisov [this message]
2026-09-22 20:52 ` [PATCH 2/2] x86/virt/tdx: Drop tdh_phymem_page_wbinvd_*() Rick Edgecombe
2026-09-23 2:18 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-23 16:31 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-23 5:41 ` Yan Zhao
2026-09-23 18:22 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-23 7:09 ` Xu Yilun
2026-09-23 18:18 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
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