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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Andy Walls <awalls@radix.net>
Cc: torvalds@linux-foundation.org, mingo@elte.hu,
	peterz@infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	jeff@garzik.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	jens.axboe@oracle.com, rusty@rustcorp.com.au,
	cl@linux-foundation.org, dhowells@redhat.com,
	arjan@linux.intel.com, avi@redhat.com, johannes@sipsolutions.net,
	andi@firstfloor.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 30/40] workqueue: implement work_busy()
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:41:42 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B53F496.8050105@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1263783156.5220.66.camel@palomino.walls.org>

Hello, Andy.

On 01/18/2010 11:52 AM, Andy Walls wrote:
>>From a driver writer's perspective, this function not useful since it is
> unreliable (false positives only?) and I have no way of
> 
> "ensuring the workqueue @work was last queued on stays valid until this
> function returns."
> 
> I don't quite know how to check and enfore a workqueue's continuing
> validity across the function call.  (Maybe you could clarify?)

I don't really think that would be possible without tinkering with
workqueue internal locking.

> 2. Just schedule the work object and check the return value to see if
> the submission suceeded.  If it did, the work was "not pending".  This
> method can't check for "running" of course.

For workqueue, the above combined with proper subsystem locking would
be the best way to do it, I think.

> Is there some specific use case where this function is very useful
> despite being unreliable?  I just think it's asking for abuse by someone
> who would think "mostly reliable" is good enough, when it actually may
> not be.

I mostly just wanted to keep the fscache debug printout which
indicates whether a fscache object has work pending or running.  It's
a debug printout so it doesn't need to be reliable.  If the debug
printout can be removed, this patch can go too.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-18  5:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-18  0:57 [PATCHSET] concurrency managed workqueue, take#3 Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  0:57 ` [PATCH 01/40] sched: consult online mask instead of active in select_fallback_rq() Tejun Heo
2010-01-18 10:13   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-18 11:26     ` Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  0:57 ` [PATCH 02/40] sched: rename preempt_notifiers to sched_notifiers and refactor implementation Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  0:57 ` [PATCH 03/40] sched: refactor try_to_wake_up() Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  0:57 ` [PATCH 04/40] sched: implement __set_cpus_allowed() Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  9:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-18 11:22     ` Tejun Heo
2010-01-18 11:41       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-19  1:07         ` Tejun Heo
2010-01-19  8:37           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-20  8:35             ` Tejun Heo
2010-01-20  8:50               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-20  9:00                 ` Tejun Heo
2010-01-20  8:59                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-24  8:18               ` Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  0:57 ` [PATCH 05/40] sched: make sched_notifiers unconditional Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  0:57 ` [PATCH 06/40] sched: add wakeup/sleep sched_notifiers and allow NULL notifier ops Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  9:57   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-18 11:31     ` Tejun Heo
2010-01-18 12:49       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-19  1:04         ` Tejun Heo
2010-01-19  8:28           ` Tejun Heo
2010-01-19  8:55             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-20  8:47               ` Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  0:57 ` [PATCH 07/40] sched: implement try_to_wake_up_local() Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  0:57 ` [PATCH 08/40] acpi: use queue_work_on() instead of binding workqueue worker to cpu0 Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  0:57 ` [PATCH 09/40] stop_machine: reimplement without using workqueue Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  0:57 ` [PATCH 10/40] workqueue: misc/cosmetic updates Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  0:57 ` [PATCH 11/40] workqueue: merge feature parameters into flags Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  0:57 ` [PATCH 12/40] workqueue: define both bit position and mask for work flags Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  0:57 ` [PATCH 13/40] workqueue: separate out process_one_work() Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  0:57 ` [PATCH 14/40] workqueue: temporarily disable workqueue tracing Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  0:57 ` [PATCH 15/40] workqueue: kill cpu_populated_map Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  0:57 ` [PATCH 16/40] workqueue: update cwq alignement Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  0:57 ` [PATCH 17/40] workqueue: reimplement workqueue flushing using color coded works Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  0:57 ` [PATCH 18/40] workqueue: introduce worker Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  0:57 ` [PATCH 19/40] workqueue: reimplement work flushing using linked works Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  0:57 ` [PATCH 20/40] workqueue: implement per-cwq active work limit Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  0:57 ` [PATCH 21/40] workqueue: reimplement workqueue freeze using max_active Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  0:57 ` [PATCH 22/40] workqueue: introduce global cwq and unify cwq locks Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  0:57 ` [PATCH 23/40] workqueue: implement worker states Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  0:57 ` [PATCH 24/40] workqueue: reimplement CPU hotplugging support using trustee Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  0:57 ` [PATCH 25/40] workqueue: make single thread workqueue shared worker pool friendly Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  0:57 ` [PATCH 26/40] workqueue: use shared worklist and pool all workers per cpu Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  0:57 ` [PATCH 27/40] workqueue: implement concurrency managed dynamic worker pool Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  0:57 ` [PATCH 28/40] workqueue: increase max_active of keventd and kill current_is_keventd() Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  0:57 ` [PATCH 29/40] workqueue: add system_wq and system_single_wq Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  0:57 ` [PATCH 30/40] workqueue: implement work_busy() Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  2:52   ` Andy Walls
2010-01-18  5:41     ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2010-01-18  0:57 ` [PATCH 31/40] libata: take advantage of cmwq and remove concurrency limitations Tejun Heo
2010-01-18 15:48   ` Stefan Richter
2010-01-19  0:49     ` Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  0:57 ` [PATCH 32/40] async: introduce workqueue based alternative implementation Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  6:01   ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-01-18  8:49     ` Tejun Heo
2010-01-18 15:25       ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-01-19  0:57         ` Tejun Heo
2010-01-19  0:57           ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-01-19  7:56             ` Tejun Heo
2010-01-19 14:37               ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-01-20  0:19                 ` Tejun Heo
2010-01-20  0:31                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-01-20  2:08                     ` Tejun Heo
2010-01-20  6:03                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-01-20  8:24                         ` Tejun Heo
2010-01-22 10:59                           ` [PATCH] async: use workqueue for worker pool Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  0:57 ` [PATCH 33/40] async: convert async users to use the new implementation Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  0:57 ` [PATCH 34/40] async: kill original implementation Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  0:57 ` [PATCH 35/40] fscache: convert object to use workqueue instead of slow-work Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  0:57 ` [PATCH 36/40] fscache: convert operation " Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  0:57 ` [PATCH 37/40] fscache: drop references to slow-work Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  0:57 ` [PATCH 38/40] cifs: use workqueue instead of slow-work Tejun Heo
2010-01-19 12:20   ` Jeff Layton
2010-01-20  0:15     ` Tejun Heo
2010-01-20  0:56       ` Jeff Layton
2010-01-20  1:23         ` Tejun Heo
2010-01-22 11:14           ` [PATCH UPDATED " Tejun Heo
2010-01-22 11:45             ` Jeff Layton
2010-01-24  8:25               ` Tejun Heo
2010-01-24 12:13                 ` Jeff Layton
2010-01-25 15:25                   ` Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  0:57 ` [PATCH 39/40] gfs2: " Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  9:45   ` Steven Whitehouse
2010-01-18 11:24     ` Tejun Heo
2010-01-18 12:07       ` Steven Whitehouse
2010-01-19  1:00         ` Tejun Heo
2010-01-19  8:46           ` [PATCH UPDATED " Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  0:57 ` [PATCH 40/40] slow-work: kill it Tejun Heo
2010-01-18  1:03 ` perf-wq.c used to generate synthetic workload Tejun Heo
2010-01-18 16:13 ` [PATCHSET] concurrency managed workqueue, take#3 Stefan Richter
2010-02-12 18:03 ` [PATCH 35/40] fscache: convert object to use workqueue instead of slow-work David Howells
2010-02-13  5:43   ` Tejun Heo
2010-02-15 15:04   ` David Howells
2010-02-16  3:40     ` Tejun Heo
2010-02-16  3:59       ` Tejun Heo
2010-02-16 18:05     ` David Howells
2010-02-16 23:50       ` Tejun Heo
2010-02-18 11:50       ` David Howells
2010-02-18 12:33         ` Tejun Heo

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