From: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>
To: Matt Helsley <matthltc@us.ibm.com>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
"spender@grsecurity.net" <spender@grsecurity.net>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
"linux-doc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>,
Darren Hart <dvhart@linux.intel.com>,
"kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com"
<kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@xenotime.net>,
Linux Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org>,
Gene Cooperman <gene@ccs.neu.edu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] futex: mark get_robust_list as deprecated
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 10:14:07 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F754F2F.7000600@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120330050544.GA32299@count0.beaverton.ibm.com>
On 03/30/2012 09:05 AM, Matt Helsley wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 03:06:02PM -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>> Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> writes:
>>
>>> Notify get_robust_list users that the syscall is going away.
>>
>> Has anyone asked the question if the folks working on checkpoint/restart
>> are going to need this.
>>
>> This seems like important information to know if you want to checkpoint
>> a process.
>
> I have no idea if the CRIU and DMTCP folks care about this. I've added
> some folks related to those projects to the Cc list.
Nope, we don't need this syscall, thanks for notifying!
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>> Suggested-by: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
>>> Signed-off-by: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
>>> ---
>>> v2:
>>> - add note to feature-removal-schedule.txt.
>>> ---
>>> Documentation/feature-removal-schedule.txt | 10 ++++++++++
>>> kernel/futex.c | 2 ++
>>> kernel/futex_compat.c | 2 ++
>>> 3 files changed, 14 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/Documentation/feature-removal-schedule.txt b/Documentation/feature-removal-schedule.txt
>>> index 4bfd982..e3bf119 100644
>>> --- a/Documentation/feature-removal-schedule.txt
>>> +++ b/Documentation/feature-removal-schedule.txt
>>> @@ -543,3 +543,13 @@ When: 3.5
>>> Why: The old kmap_atomic() with two arguments is deprecated, we only
>>> keep it for backward compatibility for few cycles and then drop it.
>>> Who: Cong Wang <amwang@redhat.com>
>>> +
>>> +----------------------------
>>> +
>>> +What: get_robust_list syscall
>>> +When: 2013
>>> +Why: There appear to be no production users of the get_robust_list syscall,
>>> + and it runs the risk of leaking address locations, allowing the bypass
>>> + of ASLR. It was only ever intended for debugging, so it should be
>>> + removed.
>
> So I've looked in glibc, gdb, and DMTCP. The description of the intended
> use of get_robust_list() is accurate. However the benefit of ASLR is
> less clear when it comes to the robust list. In glibc the robust list is
> only used from NPTL. The robust list head is in struct pthread which can be
> obtained from pthread_self() anyway. Thus I think ASLR doesn't really help
> obfuscate the robust futex list unless the program is using robust futexes
> without the aid of glibc.
>
> Cheers,
> -Matt Helsley
>
> .
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-03-30 6:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-03-19 23:12 [PATCH] futex: do not leak robust list to unprivileged process Kees Cook
2012-03-20 13:31 ` Serge Hallyn
2012-03-20 17:02 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-03-20 17:11 ` Kees Cook
2012-03-20 17:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-03-22 23:46 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-03-23 17:58 ` [PATCH] futex: mark get_robust_list as deprecated Kees Cook
2012-03-23 18:27 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-03-23 19:08 ` Kees Cook
2012-03-23 19:08 ` [PATCH v2] " Kees Cook
2012-03-23 22:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-03-23 22:10 ` Kees Cook
2012-03-30 5:05 ` Matt Helsley
2012-03-30 6:14 ` Pavel Emelyanov [this message]
2012-03-30 22:51 ` Gene Cooperman
2012-03-27 18:05 ` Josh Boyer
2012-03-27 19:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-29 9:56 ` [tip:core/locking] futex: Mark " tip-bot for Kees Cook
2012-08-02 10:35 ` [PATCH v2] futex: mark " richard -rw- weinberger
2012-08-02 11:11 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-08-03 10:17 ` richard -rw- weinberger
2012-08-03 11:02 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-08-03 11:19 ` richard -rw- weinberger
2012-08-03 11:27 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-08-03 11:30 ` richard -rw- weinberger
2012-08-03 11:35 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-08-03 11:38 ` richard -rw- weinberger
2012-08-03 12:38 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2012-08-03 12:58 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-08-03 13:00 ` richard -rw- weinberger
2012-08-03 17:16 ` Kees Cook
2012-03-28 18:33 ` [PATCH] futex: do not leak robust list to unprivileged process Kees Cook
2012-03-28 21:24 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-03-29 9:55 ` [tip:core/locking] futex: Do " tip-bot for Kees Cook
2012-06-19 1:41 ` Wanlong Gao
2012-06-19 2:24 ` Serge Hallyn
2012-06-19 2:32 ` Wanlong Gao
2012-06-19 3:13 ` Serge Hallyn
2012-06-19 3:21 ` Wanlong Gao
2012-06-19 12:23 ` Serge Hallyn
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