From: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
To: Peter Williams <pwil3058@bigpond.net.au>
Cc: Helge Hafting <helgehaf@aitel.hist.no>,
Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched: Fix adverse effects of NFS client on interactive response
Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2006 06:27:04 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20060107051229.00c42230@pop.gmx.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43BF152A.80509@bigpond.net.au>
At 12:11 PM 1/7/2006 +1100, Peter Williams wrote:
>Is that patch complete? (This is all I got.)
Yes.
>--- linux-2.6.15/kernel/sched.c.org Fri Jan 6 08:44:09 2006
>+++ linux-2.6.15/kernel/sched.c Fri Jan 6 08:51:03 2006
>@@ -1353,7 +1353,7 @@
>
> out_activate:
> #endif /* CONFIG_SMP */
>- if (old_state == TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE) {
>+ if (old_state & TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE) {
> rq->nr_uninterruptible--;
> /*
> * Tasks on involuntary sleep don't earn
>@@ -3010,7 +3010,7 @@
> unlikely(signal_pending(prev))))
> prev->state = TASK_RUNNING;
> else {
>- if (prev->state == TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE)
>+ if (prev->state & TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE)
> rq->nr_uninterruptible++;
> deactivate_task(prev, rq);
> }
>
>In the absence of any use of TASK_NONINTERACTIVE in conjunction with
>TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE it will have no effect.
Exactly. It's only life insurance.
> Personally, I think that all TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE sleeps should be
> treated as non interactive rather than just be heavily discounted (and
> that TASK_NONINTERACTIVE shouldn't be needed in conjunction with it) BUT
> I may be wrong especially w.r.t. media streamers such as audio and video
> players and the mechanisms they use to do sleeps between cpu bursts.
Try it, you won't like it. When I first examined sleep_avg woes, my
reaction was to nuke uninterruptible sleep too... boy did that ever _suck_ :)
I'm trying to think of ways to quell the nasty side of sleep_avg without
destroying the good. One method I've tinkered with in the past with
encouraging results is to compute a weighted slice_avg, which is a measure
of how long it takes you to use your slice, and scale it to match
MAX_SLEEPAVG for easy comparison. A possible use thereof: In order to be
classified interactive, you need the sleep_avg, but that's not enough...
you also have to have a record of sharing the cpu. When your slice_avg
degrades enough as you burn cpu, you no longer get to loop in the active
queue. Being relegated to the expired array though will improve your
slice_avg and let you regain your status. Your priority remains, so you
can still preempt, but you become mortal and have to share. When there is
a large disparity between sleep_avg and slice_avg, it can be used as a
general purpose throttle to trigger TASK_NONINTERACTIVE flagging in
schedule() as negative feedback for the ill behaved. Thoughts?
-Mike
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-01-07 5:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-12-21 6:00 Peter Williams
2005-12-21 6:09 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-21 6:32 ` Peter Williams
2005-12-21 13:21 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-21 13:36 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-12-21 13:40 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-22 2:26 ` Peter Williams
2005-12-22 22:08 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-22 22:33 ` Peter Williams
2005-12-22 22:59 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-23 0:02 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-12-23 0:25 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-23 3:06 ` Peter Williams
2005-12-23 9:39 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-23 10:49 ` Peter Williams
2005-12-23 12:51 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-23 13:36 ` Peter Williams
2006-01-02 12:09 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-12-23 19:07 ` Lee Revell
2005-12-23 21:08 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-23 21:17 ` Lee Revell
2005-12-23 21:23 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-23 22:04 ` Lee Revell
2005-12-23 22:10 ` Trond Myklebust
2005-12-21 16:10 ` Horst von Brand
2005-12-21 20:36 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-12-21 22:59 ` Peter Williams
2005-12-21 16:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2005-12-21 22:49 ` Peter Williams
2006-01-02 11:01 ` Helge Hafting
2006-01-02 23:54 ` Peter Williams
2006-01-04 1:25 ` Peter Williams
2006-01-04 9:40 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2006-01-04 12:18 ` Con Kolivas
2006-01-04 10:31 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2006-01-04 21:51 ` Peter Williams
2006-01-05 6:31 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-01-05 11:31 ` Peter Williams
2006-01-05 14:31 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-01-05 23:13 ` Peter Williams
2006-01-05 23:33 ` Con Kolivas
2006-01-06 0:02 ` Peter Williams
2006-01-06 0:08 ` Con Kolivas
2006-01-06 0:40 ` Peter Williams
2006-01-06 7:39 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-01-07 1:11 ` Peter Williams
2006-01-07 5:27 ` Mike Galbraith [this message]
2006-01-07 6:34 ` Peter Williams
2006-01-07 8:54 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-01-07 23:40 ` Peter Williams
2006-01-08 5:51 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-01-07 9:30 ` Con Kolivas
2006-01-07 10:23 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-01-07 23:31 ` Peter Williams
2006-01-08 0:38 ` Con Kolivas
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