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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: mtk.manpages@gmail.com
Cc: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@canonical.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	James Morris <james.l.morris@oracle.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>, Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>,
	Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] module: add syscall to load module from fd
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 07:26:53 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <508011AD.5080307@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKgNAki+KV=Nh8D3La50uXpWv7PA5T-oPYJwK-PkOv5vMg0AqA@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/18/2012 01:05 AM, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
>>
>> So perhaps what we *should* have is something that points to the module
>> to a (buffer, length) in userspace, and the equivalent of the current
>> init_module() would be open() + mmap() + minit_module() + close()?
>
> So, I don't get it. What are the args you propose for of minit_module()?
>

Nevermind, this is what the current init_module() already takes.

So it sounds like Rusty is objecting to the very notion of tying a 
module to a file descriptor the way the proposed finit_module() system 
call does -- I was confused about the functioning of the *current* 
init_module() system call.

Given that, I have to say I now seriously question the value of 
finit_module().  The kernel can trivially discover if the pointed-to 
memory area is a MAP_SHARED mmap() of a file descriptor and if so which 
file descriptor... why can't we handle this behind the scenes?

	-hpa

P.S. the man page for init_module(2) is seriously out of date...

-- 
H. Peter Anvin, Intel Open Source Technology Center
I work for Intel.  I don't speak on their behalf.


  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-18 14:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-20 22:14 Kees Cook
2012-09-20 22:14 ` [PATCH 2/4] security: introduce kernel_module_from_file hook Kees Cook
2012-09-21 12:42   ` Mimi Zohar
2012-09-20 22:14 ` [PATCH 3/4] ARM: add finit_module syscall to ARM Kees Cook
2012-09-21 13:15   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-21 14:59     ` Russell King
2012-09-21 15:43       ` Kees Cook
2012-09-20 22:15 ` [PATCH 4/4] add finit_module syscall to asm-generic Kees Cook
2012-09-21  2:22 ` [PATCH 1/4] module: add syscall to load module from fd James Morris
2012-09-21  3:07   ` Kees Cook
2012-09-21  3:09   ` Mimi Zohar
2012-09-21 17:56   ` John Johansen
2012-10-03 22:40 ` Kees Cook
2012-10-04  5:39   ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-04 12:50     ` Mimi Zohar
2012-10-05  3:50       ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-05  7:12         ` Kees Cook
2012-10-04 20:28     ` Kees Cook
2012-10-09 21:54 ` Michael Kerrisk
2012-10-09 21:58   ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-10-09 22:03     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2012-10-09 22:09       ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]         ` <CAKgNAkjfkbYOQocuGRAKU=0P2CQCvmedhRMJZPnkUMnnxSOsqg@mail.gmail.com>
2012-10-10  5:54           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2012-10-11 22:16         ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-12  5:16           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2012-10-18  3:12             ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-18  5:39               ` Lucas De Marchi
2012-10-18 12:59               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2012-10-22  7:39                 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-23  2:37                   ` Lucas De Marchi
2012-10-23  3:40                     ` Kees Cook
2012-10-23  4:08                       ` Lucas De Marchi
2012-10-23 15:42                         ` Kees Cook
2012-10-23 15:45                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-10-23 16:25                           ` Lucas De Marchi
2012-10-24  3:06                             ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-23  7:38                   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2012-10-30 21:57                   ` Kees Cook
2012-11-01  1:03                     ` Rusty Russell
2012-12-21  0:01                   ` Michael Kerrisk
2013-01-03  0:12                     ` Rusty Russell
2013-01-06 18:59                       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-01-06 20:24                         ` Kees Cook
2013-01-07  1:41                           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-01-09 17:29                         ` Lucas De Marchi
2013-01-10  0:55                           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2012-10-18  4:24           ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-10-18  8:05             ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2012-10-18 14:26               ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2012-10-18 15:28                 ` Kees Cook
2012-10-18 15:30                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-10-19  2:23                 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-19  2:54                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-10-19 10:46                     ` Alon Ziv
2012-10-20  4:05                     ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-04 20:22 [PATCH v5] " Kees Cook
2012-10-04 20:22 ` [PATCH 1/4] " Kees Cook

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