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From: Alon Ziv <alon@nolaviz.org>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] module: add syscall to load module from fd
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 10:46:50 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <loom.20121019T124226-687@post.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5080C100.2090703@zytor.com>

H. Peter Anvin <hpa <at> zytor.com> writes:
> > It is a bit more indirect, but also in practice it's a bit trickier than
> > that.  We need to ensure the memory doesn't change underneath us and
> > stays attached to that fd.  I can easily see that code slipping and
> > ending in an exploit.
> >
> > But that may be my irrational fear of the mm :)
> 
> You have to do the same thing with a file/file descriptor, I would think.
> 
> However, I keep wondering about the use case for this, as opposed to 
> signatures.

Two things:
1. finit_module() lets LSMs make decisions based on full information on the
   module to be loaded
2. On some systems (such as Chromium OS) we have a trusted root OS (e.g. the
   entire root filesystem is protected using dm-verity); requiring signatures
   on top of this is a waste of resources



  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-19 11:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-20 22:14 Kees Cook
2012-09-20 22:14 ` [PATCH 2/4] security: introduce kernel_module_from_file hook Kees Cook
2012-09-21 12:42   ` Mimi Zohar
2012-09-20 22:14 ` [PATCH 3/4] ARM: add finit_module syscall to ARM Kees Cook
2012-09-21 13:15   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-21 14:59     ` Russell King
2012-09-21 15:43       ` Kees Cook
2012-09-20 22:15 ` [PATCH 4/4] add finit_module syscall to asm-generic Kees Cook
2012-09-21  2:22 ` [PATCH 1/4] module: add syscall to load module from fd James Morris
2012-09-21  3:07   ` Kees Cook
2012-09-21  3:09   ` Mimi Zohar
2012-09-21 17:56   ` John Johansen
2012-10-03 22:40 ` Kees Cook
2012-10-04  5:39   ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-04 12:50     ` Mimi Zohar
2012-10-05  3:50       ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-05  7:12         ` Kees Cook
2012-10-04 20:28     ` Kees Cook
2012-10-09 21:54 ` Michael Kerrisk
2012-10-09 21:58   ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-10-09 22:03     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2012-10-09 22:09       ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]         ` <CAKgNAkjfkbYOQocuGRAKU=0P2CQCvmedhRMJZPnkUMnnxSOsqg@mail.gmail.com>
2012-10-10  5:54           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2012-10-11 22:16         ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-12  5:16           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2012-10-18  3:12             ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-18  5:39               ` Lucas De Marchi
2012-10-18 12:59               ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2012-10-22  7:39                 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-23  2:37                   ` Lucas De Marchi
2012-10-23  3:40                     ` Kees Cook
2012-10-23  4:08                       ` Lucas De Marchi
2012-10-23 15:42                         ` Kees Cook
2012-10-23 15:45                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-10-23 16:25                           ` Lucas De Marchi
2012-10-24  3:06                             ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-23  7:38                   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2012-10-30 21:57                   ` Kees Cook
2012-11-01  1:03                     ` Rusty Russell
2012-12-21  0:01                   ` Michael Kerrisk
2013-01-03  0:12                     ` Rusty Russell
2013-01-06 18:59                       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-01-06 20:24                         ` Kees Cook
2013-01-07  1:41                           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2013-01-09 17:29                         ` Lucas De Marchi
2013-01-10  0:55                           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2012-10-18  4:24           ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-10-18  8:05             ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2012-10-18 14:26               ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-10-18 15:28                 ` Kees Cook
2012-10-18 15:30                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-10-19  2:23                 ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-19  2:54                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-10-19 10:46                     ` Alon Ziv [this message]
2012-10-20  4:05                     ` Rusty Russell
2012-10-04 20:22 [PATCH v5] " Kees Cook
2012-10-04 20:22 ` [PATCH 1/4] " Kees Cook

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