From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
Neeraj Upadhyay <neeraj.upadhyay@kernel.org>,
Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>,
Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
Boqun Feng <boqun@kernel.org>,
Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
Zqiang <qiang.zhang@linux.dev>,
Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
Kunwu Chan <kunwu.chan@gmail.com>,
Puranjay Mohan <puranjay@kernel.org>,
rcu@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/7] srcu: NMI-safe atomic SRCU readers, and their irqsave forms
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2026 11:02:33 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <50d177ddb1de4b84e9fd2cbd2ec5bdb7e32845d4.camel@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261111145949.70845-1-mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
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On Wed, 2026-11-11 at 09:59 -0500, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
>
> On architectures without NMI-safe this_cpu_inc(), every atomic reader
> now pays an atomic increment at lock and at unlock. The update side is
> unchanged. On architectures with NMI-safe this_cpu_inc(), such as x86,
> the readers use the same counter increments as before.
The latter claim is only true in __srcu_read_lock_fast()/_fast_updown()
isn't it? Not in the atomic-SRCU. Unless we do something like this on
top?
Signed-off-by: David Woodhouse <dwmw@amazon.co.uk> in case it actually
makes sense and you use it as anything other than a hint.
diff --git a/include/linux/srcu.h b/include/linux/srcu.h
index b6e6171b4cd4..a6db7bf55cde 100644
--- a/include/linux/srcu.h
+++ b/include/linux/srcu.h
@@ -342,7 +342,18 @@ static inline int __srcu_read_lock_atomic(struct srcu_struct *ssp)
if (in_task())
non_block_start();
srcu_check_read_flavor(ssp, SRCU_READ_FLAVOR_ATOMIC);
- retval = __srcu_read_lock_nmisafe(ssp);
+ /*
+ * Where this_cpu_inc() is NMI-safe, the this_cpu_inc() + smp_mb()
+ * of __srcu_read_lock() is NMI-safe too, and is exactly what this
+ * flavor's readers always paid. Only the architectures which
+ * genuinely need the atomic increments take them; the pairing
+ * with synchronize_srcu_atomic()'s counter scan is unchanged
+ * either way (full barrier after the increment in both forms).
+ */
+ if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_NEED_SRCU_NMI_SAFE))
+ retval = __srcu_read_lock(ssp);
+ else
+ retval = __srcu_read_lock_nmisafe(ssp);
/*
* An NMI may interrupt lockdep itself. Annotate it as a trylock
* there, as srcu_read_lock_nmisafe() does.
@@ -600,7 +611,10 @@ static inline void __srcu_read_unlock_atomic(struct srcu_struct *ssp, int idx)
WARN_ON_ONCE(idx & ~0x1);
srcu_check_read_flavor(ssp, SRCU_READ_FLAVOR_ATOMIC);
srcu_lock_release(&ssp->dep_map);
- __srcu_read_unlock_nmisafe(ssp, idx);
+ if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_NEED_SRCU_NMI_SAFE))
+ __srcu_read_unlock(ssp, idx);
+ else
+ __srcu_read_unlock_nmisafe(ssp, idx);
if (in_task())
non_block_end();
}
> David agreed to
> the change, as long as synchronize_srcu_atomic() stays within the 4-16us
> it was designed for [3].
I set a test running (*without* the above).
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-11-11 19:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-11-11 14:59 Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-11 14:59 ` [PATCH v2 1/7] srcutiny: Do not call synchronize_rcu() from synchronize_srcu_atomic() Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-11 18:35 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-11-11 14:59 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] srcu: Rule for using synchronize_srcu_atomic() from interrupt handlers Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-11 18:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-11-11 14:59 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] srcu: Make atomic SRCU readers NMI-safe Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-11 19:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-11-11 14:59 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] srcu: Add irqsave variants of the atomic SRCU readers Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-11 19:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-11-11 20:04 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-11-11 20:13 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-11 14:59 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] rcutorture: Run NMI-safe SRCU readers from NMI Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-11 14:59 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] rcutorture: Test the irqsave forms of atomic SRCU readers Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-11 14:59 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] rcutorture: Check an atomic SRCU wait within an RCU reader Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-11 19:02 ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2026-11-11 19:33 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] srcu: NMI-safe atomic SRCU readers, and their irqsave forms Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-11 19:35 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-11-11 19:37 ` David Woodhouse
2026-11-11 19:40 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2026-11-11 19:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-11-11 19:34 ` Paul E. McKenney
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