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From: Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>
To: David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>
Cc: Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@ghostprotocols.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>, Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@gmail.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V5 09/12] perf: make events stream always parsable
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 09:42:02 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51DFA53A.9020200@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51DED2AA.6030307@gmail.com>

On 11/07/13 18:43, David Ahern wrote:
> On 7/11/13 7:12 AM, Adrian Hunter wrote:
>> The event stream is not always parsable because the format of a sample
>> is dependent on the sample_type of the selected event.  When there
>> is more than one selected event and the sample_types are not the
>> same then parsing becomes problematic.  A sample can be matched to its
>> selected event using the ID that is allocated when the event is opened.
>> Unfortunately, to get the ID from the sample means first parsing it.
> 
> Here's an alternative suggestion -- one that does not involve changing the
> kernel API or requiring a common denominator in sample_type options.

The kernel API is designed to be extensible.  Extending it in a way that is
perhaps unexpected but nevertheless backward compatible, is an appropriate
solution.

> 
> perf handles event streams through an mmap which can be directly tied to an
> evsel (a single event) when the mmap is created. ie., when events are read
> we know exactly which evsel they correspond to. (See
> perf_evlist__mmap_per_cpu and perf_evlist__mmap_per_thread and add struct
> perf_evsel *evsel entry to struct perf_mmap).
> 
> Commands like perf-record can inject a user event into the stream and hence
> the data file every time the evsel changes while walking all of the mmap's
> reading events -- very  similar to the way finished round is done. The event
> would only contain a perf_event_header which is 8 bytes so this does not add
> a lot to a data file. As an optimization the evsel event could only be
> injected if the sample_types differ.
> 
> Live commands would just use the evsel connected to the mmap -- no lookups
> needed which would simplify things a bit processing the events.
> 
> In short, the information to associate event streams to an event (evsel) is
> currently available -- it's just being discarded in the many layers.
> 
> I'll try to whip up some code that implements this in the next few days.
> 
> David
> 
> 
> 


  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-07-12  6:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-11 13:12 [PATCH V5 00/12] perf tools: some fixes and tweaks Adrian Hunter
2013-07-11 13:12 ` [PATCH V5 01/12] perf tools: add debug prints Adrian Hunter
2013-07-11 13:12 ` [PATCH V5 02/12] perf tools: allow non-matching sample types Adrian Hunter
2013-07-11 13:12 ` [PATCH V5 03/12] perf tools: add pid to struct thread Adrian Hunter
2013-07-11 13:12 ` [PATCH V5 04/12] perf tools: change machine__findnew_thread() to set thread pid Adrian Hunter
2013-07-11 13:12 ` [PATCH V5 05/12] perf tools: tidy up sample parsing overflow checking Adrian Hunter
2013-07-11 13:12 ` [PATCH V5 06/12] perf tools: remove unnecessary callchain validation Adrian Hunter
2013-07-11 13:12 ` [PATCH V5 07/12] perf tools: remove references to struct ip_event Adrian Hunter
2013-07-11 13:12 ` [PATCH V5 08/12] perf tools: move " Adrian Hunter
2013-07-11 13:12 ` [PATCH V5 09/12] perf: make events stream always parsable Adrian Hunter
2013-07-11 15:43   ` David Ahern
2013-07-11 17:16     ` David Ahern
2013-07-12  6:42     ` Adrian Hunter [this message]
2013-07-12  9:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-12 12:56     ` Adrian Hunter
2013-07-12 14:55       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-15  6:14         ` Adrian Hunter
2013-07-15 11:53           ` Stephane Eranian
2013-07-15 12:09             ` Adrian Hunter
2013-07-16  6:49           ` Adrian Hunter
2013-07-16 15:09             ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-17  4:10               ` Stephane Eranian
2013-07-17 12:44               ` Adrian Hunter
2013-07-24  3:55               ` [tip:perf/core] perf: Update perf_event_type documentation tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-24 17:54                 ` Vince Weaver
2013-07-25  6:22                   ` Adrian Hunter
2013-07-25 12:34                     ` Vince Weaver
2013-07-25 16:27                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-26  3:24                         ` Vince Weaver
2013-07-26  8:55                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-26  3:20                     ` Vince Weaver
2013-07-26  8:57                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-27  3:20                         ` Vince Weaver
2013-07-25 10:04                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-25 12:31                     ` Vince Weaver
2013-07-25 12:39                       ` David Ahern
2013-09-13 21:31                 ` Vince Weaver
2013-09-13 21:42                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-11 13:12 ` [PATCH V5 10/12] perf tools: add support for PERF_SAMPLE_IDENTFIER Adrian Hunter
2013-07-11 13:12 ` [PATCH V5 11/12] perf tools: expand perf_event__synthesize_sample() Adrian Hunter
2013-07-11 13:12 ` [PATCH V5 12/12] perf tools: add a sample parsing test Adrian Hunter
2013-07-16 12:48   ` Jiri Olsa
2013-07-17 11:02     ` Adrian Hunter

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