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From: "Thomas Hellström" <thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	 Logan Gunthorpe <logang@deltatee.com>,
	Chaitanya Kulkarni <kch@nvidia.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman	 <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Alex Williamson	 <alex@shazbot.org>,
	Ankit Agrawal <ankita@nvidia.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet	 <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
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	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Robin Murphy	 <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
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	 Tushar Dave <tdave@nvidia.com>,
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	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 18/18] RDMA/mlx5: Ask P2PDMA whether ATS takes a direct peer-to-peer route
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2026 15:27:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51ddde08ece4ca9dc277d799b3ea4f1f3cdf7e10.camel@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260921131055.GP11599@ziepe.ca>

On Mon, 2026-09-21 at 10:10 -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2026 at 08:40:41AM +0200, Thomas Hellström wrote:
> > On Fri, 2026-09-18 at 14:05 -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > On Fri, Sep 18, 2026 at 03:42:28PM +0200, Thomas Hellström wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 1) Xe attachment check if pci_p2pdma_distance() returns OK for
> > > > the
> > > > path. Then Xe always sets up dma-addresses using
> > > > dma_map_resource(). 
> > > 
> > > Open coding pci_p2pdma_distance() in drivers is a hack. Using
> > > dma_map_resource() like this was never "allowed".
> > > 
> > > We've fixed things so these hacks are not needed, the drivers
> > > need to
> > > move over to things like dma_buf_phys_vec_to_sgt() and the hmm
> > > helpers
> > > to use the DMA API correctly.
> > > 
> > > > 1a) Let's say the importer (Xe) has ATS enabled, and the
> > > > exporter
> > > > is
> > > > supposed to map dma_addresses.
> > > > In between there is a switch that allows direct traffic.
> > > > Now with your patch series, How would the exporter know that Xe
> > > > has
> > > > ATS
> > > > enabled and therefore should return IOVA mappings rather than
> > > > the
> > > > BUS
> > > > addresses representing the shortcut.
> > > 
> > > The thing that does the DMA map must be aware of what PCI TLPs
> > > the
> > > PCIe initiator will use to compute the proper P2P mapping mode.
> > > 
> > > ATS always needs an IOVA but that still doesn't mean the P2P will
> > > work.
> > > 
> > > > It seems to me that a pci-device settable flag "ATS always
> > > > enabled"
> > > > should be enough to fix both issues?
> > > 
> > > It should be be per-mapping to support the NIC workflow that
> > > isn't a
> > > global operation.
> > 
> > OK. It looked to me from the series like the NIC workflow was to
> > adapt
> > its ATS settings per mapping depending on the p2p mapping type
> > returned
> > rather than vice versa. If so it would just clear "ATS always
> > enabled".
> > 
> > Admittedly a per-mapping flag would be more flexible, but also
> > would
> > require changed internal APIs?
> 
> Ah you didn't send this to the list, was it intentional?

No, Just hit the wrong reply-button. +lists again.

> 
> mlx5 has both cases, some DMA is flexable and can do either, some is
> non-ATS only.

OK.

> 
> Jason

Thanks,
Thomas

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-09-21 13:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-14 11:22 [PATCH v6 00/18] PCI/P2PDMA: Route peer-to-peer DMA by TLP class Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-14 11:22 ` [PATCH v6 01/18] PCI/P2PDMA: Document pdev->p2pdma lifetime rules Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-18 18:25   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2026-09-19  4:39     ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-14 11:22 ` [PATCH v6 02/18] PCI/P2PDMA: Document the TLP attribute assumptions Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-14 11:22 ` [PATCH v6 03/18] PCI/P2PDMA: Derive routing from directional ACS controls Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-18 19:39   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2026-09-20 11:34     ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-14 11:22 ` [PATCH v6 04/18] PCI: Reject unreadable ACS controls in isolation checks Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-18 19:59   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2026-09-14 11:22 ` [PATCH v6 05/18] PCI/P2PDMA: Evaluate ACS controls at the path divergence Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-18 20:07   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2026-09-14 11:22 ` [PATCH v6 06/18] PCI/P2PDMA: Document directional ACS routing Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-18 20:53   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2026-09-14 11:22 ` [PATCH v6 07/18] PCI/P2PDMA: Collect the path's ACS controls before deciding Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-18 21:11   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2026-09-14 11:22 ` [PATCH v6 08/18] PCI/P2PDMA: Answer routing per TLP class Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-18 21:55   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2026-09-14 11:22 ` [PATCH v6 09/18] PCI/P2PDMA: Route Relaxed Ordering Completions directly Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-18 22:07   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2026-09-14 11:22 ` [PATCH v6 10/18] PCI/P2PDMA: Reject Translated Requests blocked by Translation Blocking Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-14 11:22 ` [PATCH v6 11/18] PCI/P2PDMA: Route Translated Requests under Direct Translated P2P Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-14 11:22 ` [PATCH v6 12/18] PCI/P2PDMA: Log detailed ACS routing diagnostics Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-14 11:22 ` [PATCH v6 13/18] PCI/P2PDMA: Add KUnit tests for the ACS routing decisions Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-14 11:22 ` [PATCH v6 14/18] PCI/P2PDMA: Test the ACS P2P routing walk Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-14 11:22 ` [PATCH v6 15/18] PCI: Add KUnit coverage for ACS isolation checks Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-14 11:22 ` [PATCH v6 16/18] PCI/P2PDMA: Document TLP-class routing Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-14 11:22 ` [PATCH v6 17/18] dma-buf: Let importers ask how peer-to-peer traffic is routed Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-14 14:27   ` Christian König
2026-09-14 22:10     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-15  6:28       ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-15  6:23     ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-14 11:22 ` [PATCH v6 18/18] RDMA/mlx5: Ask P2PDMA whether ATS takes a direct peer-to-peer route Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-17 13:56   ` Thomas Hellström
2026-09-17 14:00     ` Christian König
2026-09-17 14:28       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-17 14:02     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-17 14:16       ` Thomas Hellström
2026-09-17 15:15         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-18 12:15     ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-18 13:42       ` Thomas Hellström
2026-09-18 17:05         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-19 11:25           ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-09-21  6:43           ` Christian König
2026-09-21  6:57             ` Thomas Hellström
2026-09-21 13:08             ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]           ` <f9ced8cab6eb929a5f65d789fe6922458c6f3396.camel@linux.intel.com>
     [not found]             ` <20260921131055.GP11599@ziepe.ca>
2026-09-21 13:27               ` Thomas Hellström [this message]
2026-09-21 13:25       ` Jason Gunthorpe

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