From: Keith Owens <kaos@ocs.com.au>
To: Rob Landley <landley@trommello.org>
Cc: Linux Kernel List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Hardwired drivers are going away?
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 22:35:03 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5641.1011094503@ocs3.intra.ocs.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 14 Jan 2002 09:19:01 CDT." <20020114222101.ZPUW15906.femail44.sdc1.sfba.home.com@there>
On Mon, 14 Jan 2002 09:19:01 -0500,
Rob Landley <landley@trommello.org> wrote:
>How much of the build process for the initramfs will be integrated with the
>kernel build? Since the kernel won't boot without a matching initramfs, I
>take it that some kind of initramfs will be a kernel build target now?
>
>There's been a lot of talk about having the source for a mini-libc (uclibc,
>dietlibc, some combo) in the kernel tree, and other people saying we should
>just grab the binary for build purposes. The most obvious model I can think
>of for klibc staying seperate from the kernel is the user-space
>pcmcia/cardbus hotplug stuff, but that DID get integrated into the kernel.
>
>The klibc source/binary debate still seems to be ongoing, but apart from
>that, will the build process for initramfs be part of the kernel build or not?
I am in two minds about this (but I am at one with my duality). Part
of me says that users will want to tweak the initramfs process and they
may want to use different versions of klibc, so klibc and building
initramfs should be outside the kernel build. Another part says that
users have to build initramfs before doing the install so initramfs and
klibc should be part of kbuild.
It will probably end up with klibc as part of the kernel tarball
supported by kbuild. Generating initramfs will be done by a script,
kbuild will supply a sample but users can copy and change the sample to
suit their own requirements.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-01-15 11:35 UTC|newest]
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2002-01-14 10:14 ` ISA hardware discovery -- the elegant solution Giacomo Catenazzi
2002-01-14 16:16 ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 16:38 ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2002-01-14 16:34 ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 17:48 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 17:55 ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-01-14 18:08 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 18:10 ` Hardwired drivers are going away? Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 18:50 ` David Lang
2002-01-14 19:04 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 18:57 ` David Lang
2002-01-14 19:03 ` Andrew Pimlott
2002-01-14 19:21 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-15 10:45 ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-15 11:13 ` crispin
2002-01-15 14:25 ` David Lang
2002-01-14 19:00 ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-01-14 19:17 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 19:14 ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-01-14 19:37 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 20:28 ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-01-14 19:44 ` David Lang
2002-01-14 20:09 ` Alexander Viro
2002-01-14 20:49 ` Chris Friesen
2002-01-14 20:55 ` Alexander Viro
2002-01-14 19:54 ` David Lang
2002-01-14 20:51 ` Ian Molton
2002-01-14 22:11 ` David Lang
2002-01-14 23:12 ` Brian Gerst
2002-01-14 23:17 ` David Lang
2002-01-14 23:22 ` Ian Molton
2002-01-15 0:40 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-15 17:27 ` Aaron Lehmann
2002-01-15 17:47 ` Alexander Viro
2002-01-15 19:48 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-18 12:39 ` Florian Weimer
2002-01-18 22:20 ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-01-18 23:22 ` Keith Owens
2002-01-20 23:20 ` Frank van de Pol
2002-01-21 0:54 ` Bruce Harada
2002-01-21 3:49 ` Andreas Ferber
2002-01-21 4:45 ` Bruce Harada
2002-01-21 5:12 ` Andreas Ferber
2002-01-21 1:06 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-01-21 1:07 ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-01-21 1:30 ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-21 1:53 ` Keith Owens
2002-01-21 2:04 ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-21 2:25 ` Keith Owens
2002-01-21 2:56 ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-21 3:43 ` Keith Owens
2002-01-21 4:24 ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-21 3:44 ` yodaiken
2002-01-21 20:57 ` Kai Henningsen
2002-01-21 2:13 ` John Levon
2002-01-21 2:31 ` Keith Owens
2002-01-21 23:52 ` Thomas Zimmerman
2002-01-21 9:34 ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-21 14:29 ` John Levon
2002-01-21 1:31 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-01-14 19:27 ` Alexander Viro
2002-01-15 17:24 ` Aaron Lehmann
2002-01-15 18:17 ` David Lang
2002-01-15 19:25 ` Aaron Lehmann
2002-01-14 18:54 ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-01-14 18:56 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 18:39 ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 19:09 ` Alexander Viro
2002-01-14 14:19 ` Rob Landley
2002-01-14 22:33 ` Greg KH
2002-01-15 11:35 ` Keith Owens [this message]
2002-01-15 15:34 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-01-14 19:24 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 20:17 ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 14:57 ` Rob Landley
2002-01-14 20:51 ` David Lang
2002-01-14 22:18 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-01-15 19:20 ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-16 9:00 ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 23:12 ` Rusty Russell
2002-01-15 19:44 ` Kai Henningsen
2002-02-09 0:19 ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2002-01-14 17:59 ` ISA hardware discovery -- the elegant solution Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 18:35 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-15 12:44 Hardwired drivers are going away? Alan Cox
2002-01-15 2:58 ` peter
2002-01-15 12:39 ` David S. Miller
2002-01-15 18:39 ` Rob Landley
[not found] <20020115025840.11509.qmail@science.horizon.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2002-01-15 12:16 ` Andi Kleen
[not found] <mailman.1011034621.1626.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2002-01-14 23:33 ` Pete Zaitcev
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[not found] ` <ksahkuv.tg60gl@ifi.uio.no>
2002-01-14 22:22 ` Chris Adams
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2001-08-05 0:39 module unresolved symbols rich+ml
2001-08-05 0:49 ` Jesse Pollard
2001-08-05 0:51 ` Steven Walter
2001-08-05 1:48 ` Keith Owens
2001-08-05 16:06 ` Horst von Brand
2001-08-06 11:18 ` Keith Owens
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