From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: david.lang@digitalinsight.com (David Lang)
Cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox),
esr@thyrsus.com, babydr@baby-dragons.com, cate@debian.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Hardwired drivers are going away?
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 19:21:01 +0000 (GMT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E16QCfF-0002c8-00@the-village.bc.nu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.40.0201141055410.22904-100000@dlang.diginsite.com> from "David Lang" at Jan 14, 2002 10:57:19 AM
> > Urban legend.
>
> If this is the case then why do I get systemcall undefined error messages
> when I make a mistake and attempt to load a module on a kernel without
> modules enabled?
Because you are using insmod. The guys who break into your computer probably
are not in their own language "that lame".
> > I defy you to measure it on x86
>
> during the discussion a few weeks ago there were people pointing out cases
> where this overhead would be a problem.
TLB miss overhead for kernel modules is very very hard to measure, at least
on the x86 platform. It can be an issue in userspace as you address much
larger objects and in certain cases like scanning an element in an array
of objects hit a TLB reload each scan or two (think about vertical line draw
unaccelerated in X11)
> > tar or nfs mount; make modules_install.
> >
> not on my firewalls thank you.
If you are that worried just burn a new root file system on CD when you
upgrade your firewall. At least I hope if you are going to pretend to be
so secure that tar is a bad idea you have no writable file store on the
machine ?
Alan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-01-14 19:11 UTC|newest]
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2002-01-14 10:14 ` ISA hardware discovery -- the elegant solution Giacomo Catenazzi
2002-01-14 16:16 ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 16:38 ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2002-01-14 16:34 ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 17:48 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 17:55 ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-01-14 18:08 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 18:10 ` Hardwired drivers are going away? Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 18:50 ` David Lang
2002-01-14 19:04 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 18:57 ` David Lang
2002-01-14 19:03 ` Andrew Pimlott
2002-01-14 19:21 ` Alan Cox [this message]
2002-01-15 10:45 ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-15 11:13 ` crispin
2002-01-15 14:25 ` David Lang
2002-01-14 19:00 ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-01-14 19:17 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 19:14 ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-01-14 19:37 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 20:28 ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-01-14 19:44 ` David Lang
2002-01-14 20:09 ` Alexander Viro
2002-01-14 20:49 ` Chris Friesen
2002-01-14 20:55 ` Alexander Viro
2002-01-14 19:54 ` David Lang
2002-01-14 20:51 ` Ian Molton
2002-01-14 22:11 ` David Lang
2002-01-14 23:12 ` Brian Gerst
2002-01-14 23:17 ` David Lang
2002-01-14 23:22 ` Ian Molton
2002-01-15 0:40 ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-15 17:27 ` Aaron Lehmann
2002-01-15 17:47 ` Alexander Viro
2002-01-15 19:48 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-18 12:39 ` Florian Weimer
2002-01-18 22:20 ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-01-18 23:22 ` Keith Owens
2002-01-20 23:20 ` Frank van de Pol
2002-01-21 0:54 ` Bruce Harada
2002-01-21 3:49 ` Andreas Ferber
2002-01-21 4:45 ` Bruce Harada
2002-01-21 5:12 ` Andreas Ferber
2002-01-21 1:06 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-01-21 1:07 ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-01-21 1:30 ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-21 1:53 ` Keith Owens
2002-01-21 2:04 ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-21 2:25 ` Keith Owens
2002-01-21 2:56 ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-21 3:43 ` Keith Owens
2002-01-21 4:24 ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-21 3:44 ` yodaiken
2002-01-21 20:57 ` Kai Henningsen
2002-01-21 2:13 ` John Levon
2002-01-21 2:31 ` Keith Owens
2002-01-21 23:52 ` Thomas Zimmerman
2002-01-21 9:34 ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-21 14:29 ` John Levon
2002-01-21 1:31 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-01-14 19:27 ` Alexander Viro
2002-01-15 17:24 ` Aaron Lehmann
2002-01-15 18:17 ` David Lang
2002-01-15 19:25 ` Aaron Lehmann
2002-01-14 18:54 ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-01-14 18:56 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 18:39 ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 19:09 ` Alexander Viro
2002-01-14 14:19 ` Rob Landley
2002-01-14 22:33 ` Greg KH
2002-01-15 11:35 ` Keith Owens
2002-01-15 15:34 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-01-14 19:24 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 20:17 ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 14:57 ` Rob Landley
2002-01-14 20:51 ` David Lang
2002-01-14 22:18 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-01-15 19:20 ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-16 9:00 ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 23:12 ` Rusty Russell
2002-01-15 19:44 ` Kai Henningsen
2002-02-09 0:19 ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2002-01-14 17:59 ` ISA hardware discovery -- the elegant solution Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 18:35 ` Alan Cox
2002-01-15 12:44 Hardwired drivers are going away? Alan Cox
2002-01-15 2:58 ` peter
2002-01-15 12:39 ` David S. Miller
2002-01-15 18:39 ` Rob Landley
[not found] <20020115025840.11509.qmail@science.horizon.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2002-01-15 12:16 ` Andi Kleen
[not found] <mailman.1011034621.1626.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2002-01-14 23:33 ` Pete Zaitcev
[not found] <fa.g055bvv.qmq0hk@ifi.uio.no>
[not found] ` <ksahkuv.tg60gl@ifi.uio.no>
2002-01-14 22:22 ` Chris Adams
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2001-08-05 0:39 module unresolved symbols rich+ml
2001-08-05 0:49 ` Jesse Pollard
2001-08-05 0:51 ` Steven Walter
2001-08-05 1:48 ` Keith Owens
2001-08-05 16:06 ` Horst von Brand
2001-08-06 11:18 ` Keith Owens
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