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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: babydr@baby-dragons.com (Mr. James W. Laferriere)
Cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk (Alan Cox),
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org (Linux Kernel List)
Subject: Re: Hardwired drivers are going away?
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 19:17:46 +0000 (GMT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E16QCc6-0002bb-00@the-village.bc.nu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0201141358060.3238-100000@filesrv1.baby-dragons.com> from "Mr. James W. Laferriere" at Jan 14, 2002 02:00:01 PM

> > Urban legend.
> 	I do not agree .  Got proof ?  Yes that is a valid question .

Most of the rootkit type stuff I see nowdays includes code for loading
patches into module free kernels. Its a real no win. The better ones support
regexp scanning so they can patch kernels where the sysadmin thinks he/she
is cool and has hidden or crapped in System.map

> > > case becouse the system can't know where the module will be located IIRC)
> > I defy you to measure it on x86
> 	OK ,How about sparc-64/alpha/ia64/... ?

Not generally found in your grandmothers PC

> > > 3. simplicity in building kernels for other machines. with a monolithic
> > > kernel you have one file to move (and a bootloader to run) with modules
> > > you have to move quite a few more files.
> > tar or nfs mount; make modules_install.
> 	Please my laugh'o meter is stuck already .  Sorry .  JimL

Then fix it, because the above works well. Also remember that autoconfig
tools won't be able to guess remote machines very well 8)

  reply	other threads:[~2002-01-14 19:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <fa.dardpev.1m1emjp@ifi.uio.no>
2002-01-14 10:14 ` ISA hardware discovery -- the elegant solution Giacomo Catenazzi
2002-01-14 16:16   ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 16:38     ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2002-01-14 16:34       ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 17:48     ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 17:55       ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-01-14 18:08         ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 18:10           ` Hardwired drivers are going away? Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 18:50             ` David Lang
2002-01-14 19:04               ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 18:57                 ` David Lang
2002-01-14 19:03                   ` Andrew Pimlott
2002-01-14 19:21                   ` Alan Cox
2002-01-15 10:45                   ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-15 11:13                     ` crispin
2002-01-15 14:25                     ` David Lang
2002-01-14 19:00                 ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-01-14 19:17                   ` Alan Cox [this message]
2002-01-14 19:14                     ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-01-14 19:37                       ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 20:28                         ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-01-14 19:44                     ` David Lang
2002-01-14 20:09                       ` Alexander Viro
2002-01-14 20:49                         ` Chris Friesen
2002-01-14 20:55                           ` Alexander Viro
2002-01-14 19:54                     ` David Lang
2002-01-14 20:51                     ` Ian Molton
2002-01-14 22:11                       ` David Lang
2002-01-14 23:12                         ` Brian Gerst
2002-01-14 23:17                           ` David Lang
2002-01-14 23:22                       ` Ian Molton
2002-01-15  0:40                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2002-01-15 17:27                     ` Aaron Lehmann
2002-01-15 17:47                       ` Alexander Viro
2002-01-15 19:48                       ` Alan Cox
2002-01-18 12:39                   ` Florian Weimer
2002-01-18 22:20                     ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-01-18 23:22                       ` Keith Owens
2002-01-20 23:20                         ` Frank van de Pol
2002-01-21  0:54                         ` Bruce Harada
2002-01-21  3:49                           ` Andreas Ferber
2002-01-21  4:45                           ` Bruce Harada
2002-01-21  5:12                             ` Andreas Ferber
2002-01-21  1:06                       ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-01-21  1:07                         ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-01-21  1:30                           ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-21  1:53                             ` Keith Owens
2002-01-21  2:04                               ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-21  2:25                                 ` Keith Owens
2002-01-21  2:56                                   ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-21  3:43                                     ` Keith Owens
2002-01-21  4:24                                       ` Andrew Morton
2002-01-21  3:44                                   ` yodaiken
2002-01-21 20:57                                 ` Kai Henningsen
2002-01-21  2:13                               ` John Levon
2002-01-21  2:31                                 ` Keith Owens
2002-01-21 23:52                                   ` Thomas Zimmerman
2002-01-21  9:34                             ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-21 14:29                               ` John Levon
2002-01-21  1:31                         ` Anton Altaparmakov
2002-01-14 19:27               ` Alexander Viro
2002-01-15 17:24               ` Aaron Lehmann
2002-01-15 18:17                 ` David Lang
2002-01-15 19:25                   ` Aaron Lehmann
2002-01-14 18:54             ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2002-01-14 18:56             ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 18:39               ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 19:09             ` Alexander Viro
2002-01-14 14:19               ` Rob Landley
2002-01-14 22:33                 ` Greg KH
2002-01-15 11:35                 ` Keith Owens
2002-01-15 15:34                   ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-01-14 19:24               ` Alan Cox
2002-01-14 20:17               ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 14:57                 ` Rob Landley
2002-01-14 20:51                 ` David Lang
2002-01-14 22:18                 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-01-15 19:20                 ` Horst von Brand
2002-01-16  9:00                   ` Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 23:12             ` Rusty Russell
2002-01-15 19:44             ` Kai Henningsen
2002-02-09  0:19             ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2002-01-14 17:59       ` ISA hardware discovery -- the elegant solution Eric S. Raymond
2002-01-14 18:35         ` Alan Cox
2002-01-15 12:44 Hardwired drivers are going away? Alan Cox
2002-01-15  2:58 ` peter
2002-01-15 12:39   ` David S. Miller
2002-01-15 18:39     ` Rob Landley
     [not found] <20020115025840.11509.qmail@science.horizon.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2002-01-15 12:16 ` Andi Kleen
     [not found] <mailman.1011034621.1626.linux-kernel2news@redhat.com>
2002-01-14 23:33 ` Pete Zaitcev
     [not found] <fa.g055bvv.qmq0hk@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <ksahkuv.tg60gl@ifi.uio.no>
2002-01-14 22:22   ` Chris Adams
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-08-05  0:39 module unresolved symbols rich+ml
2001-08-05  0:49 ` Jesse Pollard
2001-08-05  0:51 ` Steven Walter
2001-08-05  1:48 ` Keith Owens
2001-08-05 16:06   ` Horst von Brand
2001-08-06 11:18     ` Keith Owens

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