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From: Dongliang Mu <dzm91@hust.edu.cn>
To: "Weijie Yuan" <wy@wyuan.org>, 葉宸佑 <chenyou910331@gmail.com>
Cc: Hu Haowen <2023002089@link.tyut.edu.cn>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Dongliang Mu <mudongliangabcd@gmail.com>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Yuchen Tian <cat@malon.dev>, Alex Shi <alexs@kernel.org>,
	Yanteng Si <si.yanteng@linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] docs: zh_TW: process: localize terminologies and improve fluency in 8.Conclusion
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2026 21:15:12 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <57e42f43-44dd-4b22-8d81-c88e20016138@hust.edu.cn> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alDs8bnIK8bWApIr@wyuan.org>


On 7/10/26 9:00 PM, Weijie Yuan wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 10, 2026 at 04:49:30PM +0800, 葉宸佑 wrote:
>> Gentle ping.
>>
>> This v2 addressed the review comments from Alex and Dongliang.
>> Is there anything else I should improve, or is it queued somewhere
>> I might have missed?
> Hi Chenyou,
>
> I think currently having Alex apply your patch is a temporary measure,
> because the maintainer of traditional Chinese seems unlikely to be
> available in the near future.

I can help review patches in traditional Chinese. With the help of LLM, 
it is fine for me to handle local terminologies in zh_TW.

Dongliang Mu

>
> Outside the patch itself, I noticed that Traditional Chinese is actually
> in a state of stagnation, which makes me think that receiving such
> patches is a temporary solution rather than a long-term fix.
>
> As Jonathan said, "...But there does come a point where a translation
> is so obsolete that it does more harm than good and there are no
> prospects of it being updated."
>
> So, after a period of about two years of stagnation, the Traditional
> Chinese documents seem to have really reached an unreadable state. This
> is something we don't want to see, but we must accept the reality and
> then take action. Please note that I have no intention of offending
> Haowen. On the contrary, I am definitely grateful for all that he has
> done.
>
> I did some interactions with one of the L10n Taiwan team (who are
> involved with Git L10n) [1] in their telegram channel a few days before,
> but sadly they said the biggest problems are:
>
>    1. No one is willing to take over. (hey, I totally understand)
>    2. There are different opinions on translation. (I don't know the
>       deeper details)
>
> Besides, I'm also very curious about how exactly we define the position
> of traditional Chinese or zh_TW. From my rough observation, the existing
> documents merely performed a simple conversion between simplified and
> traditional Chinese, without taking into account the local expressions
> specific to Taiwan. Therefore, that's why we are receiving the patch
> here and commit aba18be23f14 ("docs/zh_TW: replace 接口 with 介面 in stable-api-nonsense.rst")
> (Please correct me if I'm wrong, as I have not got into many
> translated pages)
>
> So if we are doing zh_TW instead of a direct simplified and traditional
> Chinese conversion, I don't think we can handle this properly without
> the help of Taiwanese friends.
>
> Of course, I feel quite ashamed that I'm saying these above here without
> having made any substantial contributions to this community, sorry.
>
> Could we discuss this matter in another thread? Very sorry Chenyou, what
> I'm saying is completely unrelated to the patch itself.
>
> Finally, I would like to express my sincere gratitude to Haowen.
>
> Thanks,
> Weijie
>
> [1] https://l10n.tw/


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-07-10 13:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-03  8:25 Chen-Yu Yeh
2026-07-10  8:49 ` 葉宸佑
2026-07-10 13:00   ` Weijie Yuan
2026-07-10 13:07     ` Weijie Yuan
2026-07-10 13:15     ` Dongliang Mu [this message]
2026-07-10 18:01       ` 葉宸佑
2026-07-11 17:21         ` Weijie Yuan
2026-07-11 20:04           ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-07-12  5:15             ` Weijie Yuan
2026-07-12  4:33           ` Alex Shi
2026-07-12  7:23             ` Weijie Yuan
2026-07-13  2:44               ` 葉宸佑
2026-07-13  3:49                 ` Dongliang Mu
2026-07-13  5:33                 ` Weijie Yuan
2026-07-13  6:35                   ` 葉宸佑
2026-07-13  9:03                     ` 葉宸佑
2026-07-13  9:41                       ` Dongliang Mu
2026-07-13 10:23                         ` Weijie Yuan
2026-07-13 19:47                           ` 葉宸佑
2026-07-14  6:22                             ` Alex Shi
2026-07-14  7:42                             ` Weijie Yuan
2026-07-10 13:05   ` Dongliang Mu
2026-07-11  5:21     ` Weijie Yuan

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