From: "Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>
To: "dedekind1@gmail.com" <dedekind1@gmail.com>,
"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"binbin.wu@linux.intel.com" <binbin.wu@linux.intel.com>
Cc: "Gao, Chao" <chao.gao@intel.com>,
"seanjc@google.com" <seanjc@google.com>,
"dave.hansen@linux.intel.com" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
"kas@kernel.org" <kas@kernel.org>,
"Li, Xiaoyao" <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>,
"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"andrew.cooper3@citrix.com" <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
"nik.borisov@suse.com" <nik.borisov@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/4] KVM: TDX: Validate directly configurable CPUID bits
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2026 22:31:24 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <58c185c82658819454a9950f37c6424226a098bb.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <32b51faabf60f6e87d9fdebbf2c3fe5a45fbff1c.camel@gmail.com>
On Tue, 2026-09-08 at 23:30 +0300, Artem Bityutskiy wrote:
> **Disclaimer**: I am new to KVM and TDX, still learning, let me know if
> some of my comments are off.
>
>
...
>
> So maybe the way to go is to just follow 'msr_preservation.pdf' and
> adjust the allowlist? I find this approach safe and acceptable.
We are kind of discussing what recommendations we should give about how
msr_preservation.pdf should be defined for new CPUID bit based features. So
saying to follow msr_preservation.pdf is self referential.
Again, please do not treat the TDX specs as something to be handed down and
"followed". I think this is something to get used to for TDX. I mean, upstream
never wants to adapt to platform arch that fits awkwardly, but it's even tougher
to swallow when the arch is mostly SW defined. And further, the people working
on the TDX arch want to hear such requirements from upstream.
Here, the thing to discuss is how TDX should define new features that will
clobber host state (e.g. bits that would appear in msr_preservation.pdf as not
being preserved).
There have been several PUCK discussions on the problem this series is tackling,
and actually several attempts to solve the problem during the base series. More
recently a host clobbering control was proposed that attempted to make it safe,
but it was not accepted. That proposal brought up the topic of whether having
select states clobbered was actually an unproven optimization.
Now that we are moving back to an allow list type solution, what guidance should
we give on this other surfaced topic. Since TDX shares some save/restore logic
with normal VMs, we should have it work well with that code. So forgetting about
the performance optimization question, how to have it work in a sensible way
with the shared code paths.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-08 22:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-27 3:18 Binbin Wu
2026-08-27 3:18 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] KVM: TDX: Track configurable CPUID bits allowed by KVM Binbin Wu
2026-09-01 6:29 ` Tony Lindgren
2026-09-01 8:23 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-01 8:27 ` Tony Lindgren
2026-09-01 14:35 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-02 0:33 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-02 15:09 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-02 16:19 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-02 16:22 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-02 16:25 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-15 7:49 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-03 7:28 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-03 8:57 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-08 21:13 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-09 16:39 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-09 22:29 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-09-09 23:18 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-10 2:39 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-10 21:29 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-11 0:55 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-11 1:30 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-10 2:53 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-16 5:17 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-08 21:15 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-08-27 3:18 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] KVM: TDX: Report CORE_CAPABILITIES as configurable Binbin Wu
2026-09-01 6:45 ` Tony Lindgren
2026-09-02 17:43 ` Kishen Maloor
2026-09-03 2:22 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-03 6:10 ` Kishen Maloor
2026-09-03 8:12 ` Binbin Wu
2026-08-27 3:18 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] KVM: TDX: Filter configurable CPUID bits Binbin Wu
2026-09-01 6:44 ` Tony Lindgren
2026-09-01 8:42 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-01 9:09 ` Tony Lindgren
2026-09-03 8:04 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-03 8:23 ` Binbin Wu
2026-08-27 3:18 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] KVM: TDX: Validate userspace CPUID input for KVM_TDX_INIT_VM Binbin Wu
2026-09-01 6:47 ` Tony Lindgren
2026-08-27 19:33 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] KVM: TDX: Validate directly configurable CPUID bits Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-08-28 3:19 ` Binbin Wu
2026-08-28 16:58 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-08-31 5:01 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-01 9:42 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-01 10:21 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-02 16:09 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-02 16:21 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-09 1:46 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-01 9:38 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-01 17:41 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-02 10:29 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-02 13:13 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-02 13:39 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-02 13:53 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-09-02 14:21 ` Xiaoyao Li
2026-09-02 16:26 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-08 9:42 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2026-09-09 0:04 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-08 20:30 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2026-09-08 22:31 ` Edgecombe, Rick P [this message]
2026-09-09 6:52 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2026-09-09 8:48 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-09 11:20 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2026-09-10 2:54 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-08 23:54 ` Binbin Wu
2026-09-09 5:37 ` Binbin Wu
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