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From: Yu Kuai <yukuai1@huaweicloud.com>
To: Paolo Valente <paolo.valente@unimore.it>,
	Yu Kuai <yukuai1@huaweicloud.com>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-block <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	yi.zhang@huawei.com, "yukuai (C)" <yukuai3@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -next v10 3/4] block, bfq: refactor the counting of 'num_groups_with_pending_reqs'
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2022 09:16:25 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5e0b44b4-46cc-b3c6-1d93-00a0a683eda8@huaweicloud.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <F758A356-EE6B-4B7B-95E2-6414616C77E4@unimore.it>

Hi, Paolo!

在 2022/09/06 17:37, Paolo Valente 写道:
> 
> 
>> Il giorno 26 ago 2022, alle ore 04:34, Yu Kuai <yukuai1@huaweicloud.com> ha scritto:
>>
>> Hi, Paolo!
>>
>> 在 2022/08/25 22:59, Paolo Valente 写道:
>>>> Il giorno 11 ago 2022, alle ore 03:19, Yu Kuai <yukuai1@huaweicloud.com <mailto:yukuai1@huaweicloud.com>> ha scritto:
>>>>
>>>> Hi, Paolo
>>>>
>>>> 在 2022/08/10 18:49, Paolo Valente 写道:
>>>>>> Il giorno 27 lug 2022, alle ore 14:11, Yu Kuai <yukuai1@huaweicloud.com <mailto:yukuai1@huaweicloud.com>> ha scritto:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, Paolo
>>>>>>
>>>>> hi
>>>>>> Are you still interested in this patchset?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yes. Sorry for replying very late again.
>>>>> Probably the last fix that you suggest is enough, but I'm a little bit
>>>>> concerned that it may be a little hasty.  In fact, before this fix, we
>>>>> exchanged several messages, and I didn't seem to be very good at
>>>>> convincing you about the need to keep into account also in-service
>>>>> I/O.  So, my question is: are you sure that now you have a
>>>>
>>>> I'm confused here, I'm pretty aware that in-service I/O(as said pending
>>>> requests is the patchset) should be counted, as you suggested in v7, are
>>>> you still thinking that the way in this patchset is problematic?
>>>>
>>>> I'll try to explain again that how to track is bfqq has pending pending
>>>> requests, please let me know if you still think there are some problems:
>>>>
>>>> patch 1 support to track if bfqq has pending requests, it's
>>>> done by setting the flag 'entity->in_groups_with_pending_reqs' when the
>>>> first request is inserted to bfqq, and it's cleared when the last
>>>> request is completed. specifically the flag is set in
>>>> bfq_add_bfqq_busy() when 'bfqq->dispatched' if false, and it's cleared
>>>> both in bfq_completed_request() and bfq_del_bfqq_busy() when
>>>> 'bfqq->diapatched' is false.
>>>>
>>> This general description seems correct to me. Have you already sent a new version of your patchset?
>>
>> It's glad that we finially on the same page here.
>>
> 
> Yep. Sorry for my chronicle delay.

Better late than never 😁
> 
>> Please take a look at patch 1, which already impelement the above
>> descriptions, it seems to me there is no need to send a new version
>> for now. If you think there are still some other problems, please let
>> me know.
>>
> 
> Patch 1 seems ok to me. I seem to have only one pending comment on this patch (3/4) instead. Let me paste previous stuff here for your convenience:
That sounds good.

> 
>>>
>>> -	/*
>>> -	 * Next function is invoked last, because it causes bfqq to be
>>> -	 * freed if the following holds: bfqq is not in service and
>>> -	 * has no dispatched request. DO NOT use bfqq after the next
>>> -	 * function invocation.
>>> -	 */
>> I would really love it if you leave this comment.  I added it after
>> suffering a lot for a nasty UAF.  Of course the first sentence may
>> need to be adjusted if the code that precedes it is to be removed.
>> Same as above, if this patch is applied, this function will be gone.
> 
> yes, but this comment now must be moved forward.
> 
> Looking forward for a new complete version, for a new review.  I'll do
> my best to reply quicker.
I'll send a new version soon, perhaps I'll also add the following
cleanups to this patchset.

Thanks,
Kuai
> 
> Thanks,
> Paolo
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Thanks,
>> Kuai
>>> Thanks,
>>> Paolo
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Kuai
>>>>> clear/complete understanding of this non-trivial matter?
>>>>> Consequently, are we sure that this last fix is most certainly all we
>>>>> need?  Of course, I will check on my own, but if you reassure me on
>>>>> this point, I will feel more confident.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Paolo
>>>>>> 在 2022/07/20 19:38, Yu Kuai 写道:
>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 在 2022/07/20 19:24, Paolo VALENTE 写道:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Il giorno 12 lug 2022, alle ore 15:30, Yu Kuai <yukuai1@huaweicloud.com <mailto:yukuai1@huaweicloud.com> <mailto:yukuai1@huaweicloud.com>> ha scritto:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm copying my reply with new mail address, because Paolo seems
>>>>>>>>> didn't receive my reply.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 在 2022/06/23 23:32, Paolo Valente 写道:
>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the delay.
>>>>>>>>>>> Il giorno 10 giu 2022, alle ore 04:17, Yu Kuai <yukuai3@huawei.com <mailto:yukuai3@huawei.com> <mailto:yukuai3@huawei.com>> ha scritto:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Currently, bfq can't handle sync io concurrently as long as they
>>>>>>>>>>> are not issued from root group. This is because
>>>>>>>>>>> 'bfqd->num_groups_with_pending_reqs > 0' is always true in
>>>>>>>>>>> bfq_asymmetric_scenario().
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The way that bfqg is counted into 'num_groups_with_pending_reqs':
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Before this patch:
>>>>>>>>>>> 1) root group will never be counted.
>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Count if bfqg or it's child bfqgs have pending requests.
>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Don't count if bfqg and it's child bfqgs complete all the requests.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> After this patch:
>>>>>>>>>>> 1) root group is counted.
>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Count if bfqg have pending requests.
>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Don't count if bfqg complete all the requests.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> With this change, the occasion that only one group is activated can be
>>>>>>>>>>> detected, and next patch will support concurrent sync io in the
>>>>>>>>>>> occasion.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Yu Kuai <yukuai3@huawei.com <mailto:yukuai3@huawei.com> <mailto:yukuai3@huawei.com>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Reviewed-by: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz <mailto:jack@suse.cz> <mailto:jack@suse.cz>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>> block/bfq-iosched.c | 42 ------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>> block/bfq-iosched.h | 18 +++++++++---------
>>>>>>>>>>> block/bfq-wf2q.c    | 19 ++++---------------
>>>>>>>>>>> 3 files changed, 13 insertions(+), 66 deletions(-)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> diff --git a/block/bfq-iosched.c b/block/bfq-iosched.c
>>>>>>>>>>> index 0ec21018daba..03b04892440c 100644
>>>>>>>>>>> --- a/block/bfq-iosched.c
>>>>>>>>>>> +++ b/block/bfq-iosched.c
>>>>>>>>>>> @@ -970,48 +970,6 @@ void __bfq_weights_tree_remove(struct bfq_data *bfqd,
>>>>>>>>>>> void bfq_weights_tree_remove(struct bfq_data *bfqd,
>>>>>>>>>>>      struct bfq_queue *bfqq)
>>>>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>>>>> -struct bfq_entity *entity = bfqq->entity.parent;
>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>> -for_each_entity(entity) {
>>>>>>>>>>> -struct bfq_sched_data *sd = entity->my_sched_data;
>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>> -if (sd->next_in_service || sd->in_service_entity) {
>>>>>>>>>>> -/*
>>>>>>>>>>> -* entity is still active, because either
>>>>>>>>>>> -* next_in_service or in_service_entity is not
>>>>>>>>>>> -* NULL (see the comments on the definition of
>>>>>>>>>>> -* next_in_service for details on why
>>>>>>>>>>> -* in_service_entity must be checked too).
>>>>>>>>>>> -*
>>>>>>>>>>> -* As a consequence, its parent entities are
>>>>>>>>>>> -* active as well, and thus this loop must
>>>>>>>>>>> -* stop here.
>>>>>>>>>>> -*/
>>>>>>>>>>> -break;
>>>>>>>>>>> -}
>>>>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>>>> -/*
>>>>>>>>>>> -* The decrement of num_groups_with_pending_reqs is
>>>>>>>>>>> -* not performed immediately upon the deactivation of
>>>>>>>>>>> -* entity, but it is delayed to when it also happens
>>>>>>>>>>> -* that the first leaf descendant bfqq of entity gets
>>>>>>>>>>> -* all its pending requests completed. The following
>>>>>>>>>>> -* instructions perform this delayed decrement, if
>>>>>>>>>>> -* needed. See the comments on
>>>>>>>>>>> -* num_groups_with_pending_reqs for details.
>>>>>>>>>>> -*/
>>>>>>>>>>> -if (entity->in_groups_with_pending_reqs) {
>>>>>>>>>>> -entity->in_groups_with_pending_reqs = false;
>>>>>>>>>>> -bfqd->num_groups_with_pending_reqs--;
>>>>>>>>>>> -}
>>>>>>>>>>> -}
>>>>>>>>>> With this part removed, I'm missing how you handle the following
>>>>>>>>>> sequence of events:
>>>>>>>>>> 1.  a queue Q becomes non busy but still has dispatched requests, so
>>>>>>>>>> it must not be removed from the counter of queues with pending reqs
>>>>>>>>>> yet
>>>>>>>>>> 2.  the last request of Q is completed with Q being still idle (non
>>>>>>>>>> busy).  At this point Q must be removed from the counter.  It seems to
>>>>>>>>>> me that this case is not handled any longer
>>>>>>>>> Hi, Paolo
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1) At first, patch 1 support to track if bfqq has pending requests, it's
>>>>>>>>> done by setting the flag 'entity->in_groups_with_pending_reqs' when the
>>>>>>>>> first request is inserted to bfqq, and it's cleared when the last
>>>>>>>>> request is completed(based on weights_tree insertion and removal).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In patch 1 I don't see the flag cleared for the request-completion event :(
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The piece of code involved is this:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> static void bfq_completed_request(struct bfq_queue *bfqq, struct bfq_data *bfqd)
>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>> u64 now_ns;
>>>>>>>> u32 delta_us;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> bfq_update_hw_tag(bfqd);
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> bfqd->rq_in_driver[bfqq->actuator_idx]--;
>>>>>>>> bfqd->tot_rq_in_driver--;
>>>>>>>> bfqq->dispatched--;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> if (!bfqq->dispatched && !bfq_bfqq_busy(bfqq)) {
>>>>>>>> /*
>>>>>>>> * Set budget_timeout (which we overload to store the
>>>>>>>> * time at which the queue remains with no backlog and
>>>>>>>> * no outstanding request; used by the weight-raising
>>>>>>>> * mechanism).
>>>>>>>> */
>>>>>>>> bfqq->budget_timeout = jiffies;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> bfq_weights_tree_remove(bfqd, bfqq);
>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am I missing something?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I add a new api bfq_del_bfqq_in_groups_with_pending_reqs() in patch 1
>>>>>>> to clear the flag, and it's called both from bfq_del_bfqq_busy() and
>>>>>>> bfq_completed_request(). I think you may miss the later:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> diff --git a/block/bfq-iosched.c b/block/bfq-iosched.c
>>>>>>> index 0d46cb728bbf..0ec21018daba 100644
>>>>>>> --- a/block/bfq-iosched.c
>>>>>>> +++ b/block/bfq-iosched.c
>>>>>>> @@ -6263,6 +6263,7 @@ static void bfq_completed_request(struct bfq_queue *bfqq, struct bfq_data *bfqd)
>>>>>>>            */
>>>>>>>           bfqq->budget_timeout = jiffies;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +        bfq_del_bfqq_in_groups_with_pending_reqs(bfqq);
>>>>>>>           bfq_weights_tree_remove(bfqd, bfqq);
>>>>>>>       }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Kuai
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Paolo
>>>>>>
>>>>> .
>>
> 
> .
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-07  1:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-10  2:16 [PATCH -next v10 0/4] support concurrent sync io for bfq on a specail occasion Yu Kuai
2022-06-10  2:16 ` [PATCH -next v10 1/4] block, bfq: support to track if bfqq has pending requests Yu Kuai
2022-06-10  2:16 ` [PATCH -next v10 2/4] block, bfq: record how many queues have " Yu Kuai
2022-06-10  2:17 ` [PATCH -next v10 3/4] block, bfq: refactor the counting of 'num_groups_with_pending_reqs' Yu Kuai
2022-06-23 15:32   ` Paolo Valente
2022-06-24  1:26     ` Yu Kuai
2022-06-25  8:10       ` Yu Kuai
2022-07-12 13:30     ` Yu Kuai
     [not found]       ` <C2CF100A-9A7C-4300-9A70-1295BC939C66@unimore.it>
2022-07-20 11:38         ` Yu Kuai
2022-07-27 12:11           ` Yu Kuai
2022-08-05 11:20             ` Yu Kuai
2022-08-10 10:49             ` Paolo Valente
2022-08-11  1:19               ` Yu Kuai
2022-08-25 12:14                 ` Yu Kuai
     [not found]                 ` <D89DCF20-27D8-4F8F-B8B0-FD193FC4F18D@unimore.it>
2022-08-26  2:34                   ` Yu Kuai
2022-09-06  9:37                     ` Paolo Valente
2022-09-07  1:16                       ` Yu Kuai [this message]
2022-09-14  1:55                         ` Yu Kuai
2022-09-14  7:50                           ` Paolo VALENTE
2022-09-14  8:15                             ` Yu Kuai
2022-09-14  9:00                               ` Jan Kara
2022-09-15  1:18                                 ` Yu Kuai
2022-06-10  2:17 ` [PATCH -next v10 4/4] block, bfq: do not idle if only one group is activated Yu Kuai
2022-06-17  1:12 ` [PATCH -next v10 0/4] support concurrent sync io for bfq on a specail occasion Yu Kuai

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