From: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
To: Suleiman Souhlal <suleiman@google.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@kernel.org>,
"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
"Darren Hart" <dvhart@infradead.org>,
"Davidlohr Bueso" <dave@stgolabs.net>,
"André Almeida" <andrealmeid@igalia.com>,
"Juri Lelli" <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
"Vincent Guittot" <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
"Dietmar Eggemann" <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
"Ben Segall" <bsegall@google.com>, "Mel Gorman" <mgorman@suse.de>,
"Valentin Schneider" <vschneid@redhat.com>,
"zhidao su" <soolaugust@gmail.com>,
"John Stultz" <jstultz@google.com>,
"Qais Yousef" <qyousef@google.com>,
ssouhlal@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 02/12] futex: Switch PI futex to use p->pi_futex_lock instead of p->pi_lock.
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2026 15:37:07 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <644b5845-4a3c-4f49-abfa-edb4fa6ed89c@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABCjUKD60kEn0BZo0r3zie6QE8wFh-0V=V6OG3nfa3b1evjVKQ@mail.gmail.com>
Hello Suleiman,
On 9/18/2026 12:41 PM, Suleiman Souhlal wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 18, 2026 at 12:38 AM Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2026 at 04:33:26AM +0000, Suleiman Souhlal wrote:
>>> Switch PI futexes to use p->pi_futex_lock instead of p->pi_lock.
>>>
>>> When augmenting PING futexes with proxy execution, we get lock order
>>> inversions, due to the lock order being p->pi_lock -> mutex->wait_lock
>>> in the scheduler, but wait_lock -> p->pi_lock in futex code.
>>>
>>> So move the futex code to use a new lock, p->pi_futex_lock, to
>>> protect p->pi_state_list and pi_state->owner.
>>
>> This is of course horrible. Lets not do this.
>
> I suppose the alternatives would be to either figure out how to
> un-nest pi_lock from wait_lock in futex code or un-nesting the
> blocked_on lock from pi_lock in the scheduler.
So the only time we try to grab pi_lock + blocked_lock is during
wakeup so I think doing that should be (theoretically) possible.
The ttwu_runnable() handling is extremely painful unless we block
the delayed task fully. Since we have he new p->is_blocked state,
we can safely retain the p->blocked_on while running the task -
it is either cleared during unlock by previosu owner or will be
same as the lock on which the task blocked on.
Based on John's tree at commit 06ac43db4d8e ("[ANNOTATION] ===
Needs confirmation of functionality past this point ===") on
proxy-exec-v31-7.2-rc4 branch:
(Lightly tested)
diff --git a/kernel/sched/core.c b/kernel/sched/core.c
index c54e9fedc9cd..a5a9d3655976 100644
--- a/kernel/sched/core.c
+++ b/kernel/sched/core.c
@@ -4008,18 +4008,14 @@ static inline bool proxy_needs_return(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p)
if (task_cpu(p) == p->wake_cpu)
return false;
- scoped_guard(raw_spinlock, &p->blocked_lock) {
- /* Task is waking up; clear any blocked_on relationship */
- __clear_task_blocked_on(p, NULL);
+ /* If already current, don't need to return migrate */
+ if (task_current(rq, p))
+ return false;
- /* If already current, don't need to return migrate */
- if (task_current(rq, p))
- return false;
+ /* If we're return migrating the rq->donor, switch it out for idle */
+ if (task_current_donor(rq, p))
+ proxy_reset_donor(rq);
- /* If we're return migrating the rq->donor, switch it out for idle */
- if (task_current_donor(rq, p))
- proxy_reset_donor(rq);
- }
block_task(rq, p, TASK_WAKING);
return true;
}
@@ -4106,9 +4102,10 @@ static int ttwu_runnable(struct task_struct *p, int wake_flags)
update_rq_clock(rq);
if (p->is_blocked) {
if (p->se.sched_delayed) {
- proxy_remove_from_sleeping_owner(p);
- enqueue_task(rq, p, ENQUEUE_NOCLOCK | ENQUEUE_DELAYED);
+ dequeue_task(rq, p, DEQUEUE_SLEEP | DEQUEUE_DELAYED);
+ return 0;
}
+
if (proxy_needs_return(rq, p))
return 0;
}
@@ -4305,20 +4302,6 @@ static bool ttwu_queue_wakelist(struct task_struct *p, int cpu, int wake_flags)
return false;
}
-static void ttwu_queue(struct task_struct *p, int cpu, int wake_flags)
-{
- struct rq *rq = cpu_rq(cpu);
- struct rq_flags rf;
-
- if (ttwu_queue_wakelist(p, cpu, wake_flags))
- return;
-
- rq_lock(rq, &rf);
- update_rq_clock(rq);
- ttwu_do_activate(rq, p, wake_flags, &rf);
- rq_unlock(rq, &rf);
-}
-
/*
* Invoked from try_to_wake_up() to check whether the task can be woken up.
*
@@ -4493,6 +4476,8 @@ int try_to_wake_up(struct task_struct *p, unsigned int state, int wake_flags)
{
guard(preempt)();
int cpu, success = 0;
+ unsigned long flags;
+ struct rq *rq;
wake_flags |= WF_TTWU;
@@ -4524,17 +4509,19 @@ int try_to_wake_up(struct task_struct *p, unsigned int state, int wake_flags)
goto out;
}
+ local_irq_save(flags);
+
/*
* If we are going to wake up a thread waiting for CONDITION we
* need to ensure that CONDITION=1 done by the caller can not be
* reordered with p->state check below. This pairs with smp_store_mb()
* in set_current_state() that the waiting thread does.
*/
- scoped_guard (raw_spinlock_irqsave, &p->pi_lock) {
+ scoped_guard (raw_spinlock, &p->pi_lock) {
smp_mb__after_spinlock();
if (!ttwu_state_match(p, state, &success))
- break;
+ goto out_restore;
trace_sched_waking(p);
@@ -4562,7 +4549,7 @@ int try_to_wake_up(struct task_struct *p, unsigned int state, int wake_flags)
*/
smp_rmb();
if (READ_ONCE(p->on_rq) && ttwu_runnable(p, wake_flags))
- break;
+ goto out_restore;
/*
* Ensure we load p->on_cpu _after_ p->on_rq, otherwise it would be
@@ -4618,7 +4605,7 @@ int try_to_wake_up(struct task_struct *p, unsigned int state, int wake_flags)
*/
if (smp_load_acquire(&p->on_cpu) &&
ttwu_queue_wakelist(p, task_cpu(p), wake_flags))
- break;
+ goto out_restore;
/*
* If the owning (remote) CPU is still in the middle of schedule() with
@@ -4653,8 +4640,25 @@ int try_to_wake_up(struct task_struct *p, unsigned int state, int wake_flags)
p->wake_cpu = cpu;
}
- ttwu_queue(p, cpu, wake_flags);
+ if (ttwu_queue_wakelist(p, cpu, wake_flags))
+ goto out_restore;
+
+ /*
+ * p->__state is set to TASK_WAKING. It is safe to drop
+ * the p->pi_lock and wake up task outside holding
+ * rq_lock() similar to the wakelist approach.
+ */
+ }
+
+ rq = cpu_rq(cpu);
+
+ scoped_guard(rq_lock, rq) {
+ update_rq_clock(rq);
+ ttwu_do_activate(rq, p, wake_flags, &scope.rf);
}
+
+out_restore:
+ local_irq_restore(flags);
out:
activate_blocked_waiters(cpu_rq(task_cpu(p)), p, wake_flags);
if (success)
---
I'm not sure if PREEMPT_RT needs that activate within pi_lock since
TTWU_QUEUE is disabled but I'll let Peter, John chime in.
> Either of them seemed more involved than creating a new lock, but
> maybe I was wrong.
> I will take another look.
--
Thanks and Regards,
Prateek
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-18 10:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-17 4:33 [RFC PATCH 00/12] FUTEX_PING: A stealable futex using Proxy Execution Suleiman Souhlal
2026-09-17 4:33 ` [RFC PATCH 01/12] sched: Abstract task_struct->blocked_on by locking primitive Suleiman Souhlal
2026-09-17 4:33 ` [RFC PATCH 02/12] futex: Switch PI futex to use p->pi_futex_lock instead of p->pi_lock Suleiman Souhlal
2026-09-17 15:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-18 7:11 ` Suleiman Souhlal
2026-09-18 10:07 ` K Prateek Nayak [this message]
2026-09-18 12:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-17 4:33 ` [RFC PATCH 03/12] futex: Add "ping" parameter to pi_state management functions and export them Suleiman Souhlal
2026-09-17 4:33 ` [RFC PATCH 04/12] futex: Introduce stealable PI futex, FUTEX_*_PING Suleiman Souhlal
2026-09-17 4:33 ` [RFC PATCH 05/12] futex: Implement exit_ping_state_list() Suleiman Souhlal
2026-09-17 4:33 ` [RFC PATCH 06/12] futex: Address aborting from futex_lock_ping() while owning ping_state Suleiman Souhlal
2026-09-17 4:33 ` [RFC PATCH 07/12] futex: Make FUTEX_*_PING use Proxy Execution Suleiman Souhlal
2026-09-17 13:18 ` Jihan LIN
2026-09-17 14:39 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-09-17 15:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-17 4:33 ` [RFC PATCH 08/12] futex: Implement PING futex handoff Suleiman Souhlal
2026-09-17 4:33 ` [RFC PATCH 09/12] futex: Wake up donor in PING futex unlock Suleiman Souhlal
2026-09-17 4:33 ` [RFC PATCH 10/12] futex: Optimistic spinning for PING futexes Suleiman Souhlal
2026-09-17 4:33 ` [RFC PATCH 11/12] futex: Allow userspace stealing " Suleiman Souhlal
2026-09-17 4:33 ` [RFC PATCH 12/12] tools/testing/futex: Add ping_bench, a tool for benchmarking futexes Suleiman Souhlal
2026-09-17 8:58 ` [RFC PATCH 00/12] FUTEX_PING: A stealable futex using Proxy Execution Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-17 17:53 ` John Stultz
2026-09-17 18:51 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-09-18 6:30 ` Suleiman Souhlal
2026-09-18 8:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-09-18 6:07 ` Suleiman Souhlal
2026-09-18 8:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
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