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From: Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@redhat.com>
To: Yang Weijiang <weijiang.yang@intel.com>,
	seanjc@google.com, pbonzini@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: dave.hansen@intel.com, peterz@infradead.org, chao.gao@intel.com,
	rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com, john.allen@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 21/25] KVM: VMX: Set up interception for CET MSRs
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2023 19:56:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <65b52f509d7f9147917f85c7db7de8fd3fe8fb44.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230914063325.85503-22-weijiang.yang@intel.com>

On Thu, 2023-09-14 at 02:33 -0400, Yang Weijiang wrote:
> Enable/disable CET MSRs interception per associated feature configuration.
> Shadow Stack feature requires all CET MSRs passed through to guest to make
> it supported in user and supervisor mode while IBT feature only depends on
> MSR_IA32_{U,S}_CETS_CET to enable user and supervisor IBT.

I don't think that this statement is 100% true.

KVM can still technically intercept wrmsr/rdmsr access to all CET msrs because they should not be used
often by the guest and this way allow to show the guest different values than what the actual
hardware values are.

For example KVM can hide (and maybe it should) indirect branch tracking bits in the MSR_IA32_S_CET
if only the shadow stack is enabled and indirect branch tracking is disabled.

The real problem is that MSR_IA32_U_CET is indirectly allowed to be read/written unintercepted,
because of XSAVES (CET_U state component 11).

Note that on the other hand the MSR_IA32_S_CET is not saved/restored by XSAVES.

So this is what I think would be the best effort that KVM can do to separate the
two features:

1. If support state of shadow stack and indirect branch tracking matches the host (the common case) then
it is simple:
	- allow both CET_S and CET_U XSAVES components
	- allow unintercepted access to all CET msrs

2. If only indirect branch is enabled in the guest CPUID, but *host also supports shadow stacks*:
	- don't expose to the guest either the CET_S nor CET_U XSAVES components.
	- only support IA32_S_CET/IA32_U_CET msrs, intercept them, 
          and hide the shadow stack bits from the guest.

3. If only shadow stacks are enabled in the guest CPUID but the *host also supports indirect branch tracking*:

	- intercept access to IA32_S_CET and IA32_U_CET and disallow 
	  indirect branch tracking bits to be set there.

	- for the sake of performance allow both CET_S and CET_U XSAVES components,
	  and accept the fact that these instructions can enable the hidden indirect branch
	  tracking bits there (this causes no harm to the host, and will likely let the
	  guest keep both pieces, fair for using undocumented features).

	  -or-

	  don't enable CET_U XSAVES component and hope that the guest can cope with this
	  by context switching the msrs instead.


	  Yet another solution is to enable the intercept of the XSAVES, and adjust
	  the saved/restored bits of CET_U msrs in the image after its emulation/execution.
	  (This can't be done on AMD, but at least this can be done on Intel, and AMD
	  so far doesn't support the indirect branch tracking at all).


Another, much simpler option is to fail the guest creation if the shadow stack + indirect branch tracking
state differs between host and the guest, unless both are disabled in the guest.
(in essence don't let the guest be created if (2) or (3) happen)

Best regards,
	Maxim Levitsky


> 
> Note, this MSR design introduced an architectual limitation of SHSTK and
> IBT control for guest, i.e., when SHSTK is exposed, IBT is also available
> to guest from architectual perspective since IBT relies on subset of SHSTK
> relevant MSRs.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Yang Weijiang <weijiang.yang@intel.com>
> ---
>  arch/x86/kvm/vmx/vmx.c | 42 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 42 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/vmx.c b/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/vmx.c
> index 9f4b56337251..30373258573d 100644
> --- a/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/vmx.c
> +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/vmx.c
> @@ -699,6 +699,10 @@ static bool is_valid_passthrough_msr(u32 msr)
>  	case MSR_LBR_CORE_TO ... MSR_LBR_CORE_TO + 8:
>  		/* LBR MSRs. These are handled in vmx_update_intercept_for_lbr_msrs() */
>  		return true;
> +	case MSR_IA32_U_CET:
> +	case MSR_IA32_S_CET:
> +	case MSR_IA32_PL0_SSP ... MSR_IA32_INT_SSP_TAB:
> +		return true;
>  	}
>  
>  	r = possible_passthrough_msr_slot(msr) != -ENOENT;
> @@ -7769,6 +7773,42 @@ static void update_intel_pt_cfg(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
>  		vmx->pt_desc.ctl_bitmask &= ~(0xfULL << (32 + i * 4));
>  }
>  
> +static void vmx_update_intercept_for_cet_msr(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
> +{
> +	bool incpt;
> +
> +	if (kvm_cpu_cap_has(X86_FEATURE_SHSTK)) {
> +		incpt = !guest_cpuid_has(vcpu, X86_FEATURE_SHSTK);
> +
> +		vmx_set_intercept_for_msr(vcpu, MSR_IA32_U_CET,
> +					  MSR_TYPE_RW, incpt);
> +		vmx_set_intercept_for_msr(vcpu, MSR_IA32_S_CET,
> +					  MSR_TYPE_RW, incpt);
> +		vmx_set_intercept_for_msr(vcpu, MSR_IA32_PL0_SSP,
> +					  MSR_TYPE_RW, incpt);
> +		vmx_set_intercept_for_msr(vcpu, MSR_IA32_PL1_SSP,
> +					  MSR_TYPE_RW, incpt);
> +		vmx_set_intercept_for_msr(vcpu, MSR_IA32_PL2_SSP,
> +					  MSR_TYPE_RW, incpt);
> +		vmx_set_intercept_for_msr(vcpu, MSR_IA32_PL3_SSP,
> +					  MSR_TYPE_RW, incpt);
> +		if (guest_cpuid_has(vcpu, X86_FEATURE_LM))
> +			vmx_set_intercept_for_msr(vcpu, MSR_IA32_INT_SSP_TAB,
> +						  MSR_TYPE_RW, incpt);
> +		if (!incpt)
> +			return;
> +	}
> +
> +	if (kvm_cpu_cap_has(X86_FEATURE_IBT)) {
> +		incpt = !guest_cpuid_has(vcpu, X86_FEATURE_IBT);
> +
> +		vmx_set_intercept_for_msr(vcpu, MSR_IA32_U_CET,
> +					  MSR_TYPE_RW, incpt);
> +		vmx_set_intercept_for_msr(vcpu, MSR_IA32_S_CET,
> +					  MSR_TYPE_RW, incpt);
> +	}
> +}
> +
>  static void vmx_vcpu_after_set_cpuid(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
>  {
>  	struct vcpu_vmx *vmx = to_vmx(vcpu);
> @@ -7846,6 +7886,8 @@ static void vmx_vcpu_after_set_cpuid(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
>  
>  	/* Refresh #PF interception to account for MAXPHYADDR changes. */
>  	vmx_update_exception_bitmap(vcpu);
> +
> +	vmx_update_intercept_for_cet_msr(vcpu);
>  }
>  
>  static u64 vmx_get_perf_capabilities(void)






  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-31 17:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-14  6:33 [PATCH v6 00/25] Enable CET Virtualization Yang Weijiang
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 01/25] x86/fpu/xstate: Manually check and add XFEATURE_CET_USER xstate bit Yang Weijiang
2023-09-14 22:39   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-09-15  2:32     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-09-15 16:35       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-09-18  7:16         ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:43   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01  9:19     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 02/25] x86/fpu/xstate: Fix guest fpstate allocation size calculation Yang Weijiang
2023-09-14 22:45   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-09-15  2:45     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-09-15 16:35       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-10-21  0:39   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-24  8:50     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-10-24 16:32       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-25 13:49         ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:43         ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 03/25] x86/fpu/xstate: Add CET supervisor mode state support Yang Weijiang
2023-09-15  0:06   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-09-15  6:30     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:44       ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 04/25] x86/fpu/xstate: Introduce kernel dynamic xfeature set Yang Weijiang
2023-09-15  0:24   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-09-15  6:42     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:44       ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 05/25] x86/fpu/xstate: Remove kernel dynamic xfeatures from kernel default_features Yang Weijiang
2023-09-14 16:22   ` Dave Hansen
2023-09-15  1:52     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:44     ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 06/25] x86/fpu/xstate: Opt-in kernel dynamic bits when calculate guest xstate size Yang Weijiang
2023-09-14 17:40   ` Dave Hansen
2023-09-15  2:22     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-10-24 17:07       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-25 14:49         ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-10-26 17:24           ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-26 22:06             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-10-31 17:45             ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01 14:16               ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-02 18:20                 ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-03 14:33                   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-07 18:04                     ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-14  9:13                       ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 07/25] x86/fpu/xstate: Tweak guest fpstate to support kernel dynamic xfeatures Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:45   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 08/25] x86/fpu/xstate: WARN if normal fpstate contains " Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:45   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 09/25] KVM: x86: Rework cpuid_get_supported_xcr0() to operate on vCPU data Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:46   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01 14:41     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-02 18:25       ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 10/25] KVM: x86: Add kvm_msr_{read,write}() helpers Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:47   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01 19:32     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-02 18:26       ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-15  9:00         ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 11/25] KVM: x86: Report XSS as to-be-saved if there are supported features Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:47   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01 19:18     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-02 18:31       ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 12/25] KVM: x86: Refresh CPUID on write to guest MSR_IA32_XSS Yang Weijiang
2023-10-08  5:54   ` Chao Gao
2023-10-10  0:49     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:51   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01 17:20     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-15  7:18   ` Binbin Wu
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 13/25] KVM: x86: Initialize kvm_caps.supported_xss Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:51   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 14/25] KVM: x86: Load guest FPU state when access XSAVE-managed MSRs Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:51   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01 18:05     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-02 18:31       ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-03  8:46       ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-11-03 14:02         ` Sean Christopherson
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 15/25] KVM: x86: Add fault checks for guest CR4.CET setting Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:51   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 16/25] KVM: x86: Report KVM supported CET MSRs as to-be-saved Yang Weijiang
2023-10-08  6:19   ` Chao Gao
2023-10-10  0:54     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:52   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 17/25] KVM: VMX: Introduce CET VMCS fields and control bits Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:52   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 18/25] KVM: x86: Use KVM-governed feature framework to track "SHSTK/IBT enabled" Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:54   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01 15:46     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-02 18:35       ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-04  0:07         ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-07 18:05           ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 19/25] KVM: VMX: Emulate read and write to CET MSRs Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:55   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01 16:31     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-02 18:38       ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-02 23:58         ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-07 18:12           ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-07 18:39             ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-03  8:18       ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-11-03 22:26         ` Sean Christopherson
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 20/25] KVM: x86: Save and reload SSP to/from SMRAM Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:55   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 21/25] KVM: VMX: Set up interception for CET MSRs Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:56   ` Maxim Levitsky [this message]
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 22/25] KVM: VMX: Set host constant supervisor states to VMCS fields Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:56   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 23/25] KVM: x86: Enable CET virtualization for VMX and advertise to userspace Yang Weijiang
2023-09-24 13:38   ` kernel test robot
2023-09-25  0:26     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:56   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01 22:14     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 24/25] KVM: nVMX: Introduce new VMX_BASIC bit for event error_code delivery to L1 Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:57   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01  4:21   ` Chao Gao
2023-11-15  8:31     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 25/25] KVM: nVMX: Enable CET support for nested guest Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:57   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01  2:09   ` Chao Gao
2023-11-01  9:22     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-11-01  9:54     ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-15  8:56       ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-11-15  8:23     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-09-25  0:31 ` [PATCH v6 00/25] Enable CET Virtualization Yang, Weijiang

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