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From: Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@redhat.com>
To: Yang Weijiang <weijiang.yang@intel.com>,
	seanjc@google.com, pbonzini@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: dave.hansen@intel.com, peterz@infradead.org, chao.gao@intel.com,
	rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com, john.allen@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 18/25] KVM: x86: Use KVM-governed feature framework to track "SHSTK/IBT enabled"
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2023 19:54:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ea3609bf7c7759b682007042b98191d91d10a751.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230914063325.85503-19-weijiang.yang@intel.com>

On Thu, 2023-09-14 at 02:33 -0400, Yang Weijiang wrote:
> Use the governed feature framework to track whether X86_FEATURE_SHSTK
> and X86_FEATURE_IBT features can be used by userspace and guest, i.e.,
> the features can be used iff both KVM and guest CPUID can support them.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Yang Weijiang <weijiang.yang@intel.com>
> ---
>  arch/x86/kvm/governed_features.h | 2 ++
>  arch/x86/kvm/vmx/vmx.c           | 2 ++
>  2 files changed, 4 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/governed_features.h b/arch/x86/kvm/governed_features.h
> index 423a73395c10..db7e21c5ecc2 100644
> --- a/arch/x86/kvm/governed_features.h
> +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/governed_features.h
> @@ -16,6 +16,8 @@ KVM_GOVERNED_X86_FEATURE(PAUSEFILTER)
>  KVM_GOVERNED_X86_FEATURE(PFTHRESHOLD)
>  KVM_GOVERNED_X86_FEATURE(VGIF)
>  KVM_GOVERNED_X86_FEATURE(VNMI)
> +KVM_GOVERNED_X86_FEATURE(SHSTK)
> +KVM_GOVERNED_X86_FEATURE(IBT)
>  
>  #undef KVM_GOVERNED_X86_FEATURE
>  #undef KVM_GOVERNED_FEATURE
> diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/vmx.c b/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/vmx.c
> index 9409753f45b0..fd5893b3a2c8 100644
> --- a/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/vmx.c
> +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/vmx.c
> @@ -7765,6 +7765,8 @@ static void vmx_vcpu_after_set_cpuid(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
>  		kvm_governed_feature_check_and_set(vcpu, X86_FEATURE_XSAVES);
>  
>  	kvm_governed_feature_check_and_set(vcpu, X86_FEATURE_VMX);
> +	kvm_governed_feature_check_and_set(vcpu, X86_FEATURE_SHSTK);
> +	kvm_governed_feature_check_and_set(vcpu, X86_FEATURE_IBT);
>  
>  	vmx_setup_uret_msrs(vmx);
>  

Reviewed-by: Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@redhat.com>


PS: IMHO The whole 'governed feature framework' is very confusing and somewhat poorly documented.

Currently the only partial explanation of it, is at 'governed_features', which doesn't
explain how to use it.

For the reference this is how KVM expects governed features to be used in the common case
(there are some exceptions to this but they are rare)

1. If a feature is not enabled in host CPUID or KVM doesn't support it, 
   KVM is expected to not enable it in KVM cpu caps.

2. Userspace uploads guest CPUID.

3. After the guest CPUID upload, the vendor code calls kvm_governed_feature_check_and_set() which sets
	governed features = True iff feature is supported in both kvm cpu caps and in guest CPUID.

4. kvm/vendor code uses 'guest_can_use()' to query the value of the governed feature instead of reading
guest CPUID.

It might make sense to document the above somewhere at least.

Now about another thing I am thinking:

I do know that the mess of boolean flags that svm had is worse than these governed features and functionality wise these are equivalent.

However thinking again about the whole thing: 

IMHO the 'governed features' is another quite confusing term that a KVM developer will need to learn and keep in memory.

Because of that, can't we just use guest CPUID as a single source of truth and drop all the governed features code?

In most cases, when the governed feature value will differ from the guest CPUID is when a feature is enabled in the guest CPUID,
but not enabled in the KVM caps.

I do see two exceptions to this: XSAVES on AMD and X86_FEATURE_GBPAGES, in which the opposite happens,
governed feature is enabled, even when the feature is hidden from the guest CPUID, but it might be
better from
readability wise point, to deal with these cases manually and we unlikely to have many new such cases in the future.

So for the common case of CPUID mismatch, when the governed feature is disabled but guest CPUID is enabled,
does it make sense to allow this? 

Such a feature which is advertised as supported but not really working is a recipe of hard to find guest bugs IMHO.

IMHO it would be much better to just check this condition and do kvm_vm_bugged() or something in case when a feature
is enabled in the guest CPUID but KVM can't support it, and then just use guest CPUID in 'guest_can_use()'.

Best regards,
	Maxim Levitsky







  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-31 17:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-14  6:33 [PATCH v6 00/25] Enable CET Virtualization Yang Weijiang
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 01/25] x86/fpu/xstate: Manually check and add XFEATURE_CET_USER xstate bit Yang Weijiang
2023-09-14 22:39   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-09-15  2:32     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-09-15 16:35       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-09-18  7:16         ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:43   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01  9:19     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 02/25] x86/fpu/xstate: Fix guest fpstate allocation size calculation Yang Weijiang
2023-09-14 22:45   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-09-15  2:45     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-09-15 16:35       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-10-21  0:39   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-24  8:50     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-10-24 16:32       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-25 13:49         ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:43         ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 03/25] x86/fpu/xstate: Add CET supervisor mode state support Yang Weijiang
2023-09-15  0:06   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-09-15  6:30     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:44       ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 04/25] x86/fpu/xstate: Introduce kernel dynamic xfeature set Yang Weijiang
2023-09-15  0:24   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-09-15  6:42     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:44       ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 05/25] x86/fpu/xstate: Remove kernel dynamic xfeatures from kernel default_features Yang Weijiang
2023-09-14 16:22   ` Dave Hansen
2023-09-15  1:52     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:44     ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 06/25] x86/fpu/xstate: Opt-in kernel dynamic bits when calculate guest xstate size Yang Weijiang
2023-09-14 17:40   ` Dave Hansen
2023-09-15  2:22     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-10-24 17:07       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-25 14:49         ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-10-26 17:24           ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-26 22:06             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-10-31 17:45             ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01 14:16               ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-02 18:20                 ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-03 14:33                   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-07 18:04                     ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-14  9:13                       ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 07/25] x86/fpu/xstate: Tweak guest fpstate to support kernel dynamic xfeatures Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:45   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 08/25] x86/fpu/xstate: WARN if normal fpstate contains " Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:45   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 09/25] KVM: x86: Rework cpuid_get_supported_xcr0() to operate on vCPU data Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:46   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01 14:41     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-02 18:25       ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 10/25] KVM: x86: Add kvm_msr_{read,write}() helpers Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:47   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01 19:32     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-02 18:26       ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-15  9:00         ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 11/25] KVM: x86: Report XSS as to-be-saved if there are supported features Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:47   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01 19:18     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-02 18:31       ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 12/25] KVM: x86: Refresh CPUID on write to guest MSR_IA32_XSS Yang Weijiang
2023-10-08  5:54   ` Chao Gao
2023-10-10  0:49     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:51   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01 17:20     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-15  7:18   ` Binbin Wu
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 13/25] KVM: x86: Initialize kvm_caps.supported_xss Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:51   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 14/25] KVM: x86: Load guest FPU state when access XSAVE-managed MSRs Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:51   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01 18:05     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-02 18:31       ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-03  8:46       ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-11-03 14:02         ` Sean Christopherson
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 15/25] KVM: x86: Add fault checks for guest CR4.CET setting Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:51   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 16/25] KVM: x86: Report KVM supported CET MSRs as to-be-saved Yang Weijiang
2023-10-08  6:19   ` Chao Gao
2023-10-10  0:54     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:52   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 17/25] KVM: VMX: Introduce CET VMCS fields and control bits Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:52   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 18/25] KVM: x86: Use KVM-governed feature framework to track "SHSTK/IBT enabled" Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:54   ` Maxim Levitsky [this message]
2023-11-01 15:46     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-02 18:35       ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-04  0:07         ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-07 18:05           ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 19/25] KVM: VMX: Emulate read and write to CET MSRs Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:55   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01 16:31     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-02 18:38       ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-02 23:58         ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-07 18:12           ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-07 18:39             ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-03  8:18       ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-11-03 22:26         ` Sean Christopherson
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 20/25] KVM: x86: Save and reload SSP to/from SMRAM Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:55   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 21/25] KVM: VMX: Set up interception for CET MSRs Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:56   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 22/25] KVM: VMX: Set host constant supervisor states to VMCS fields Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:56   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 23/25] KVM: x86: Enable CET virtualization for VMX and advertise to userspace Yang Weijiang
2023-09-24 13:38   ` kernel test robot
2023-09-25  0:26     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:56   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01 22:14     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 24/25] KVM: nVMX: Introduce new VMX_BASIC bit for event error_code delivery to L1 Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:57   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01  4:21   ` Chao Gao
2023-11-15  8:31     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 25/25] KVM: nVMX: Enable CET support for nested guest Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:57   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01  2:09   ` Chao Gao
2023-11-01  9:22     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-11-01  9:54     ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-15  8:56       ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-11-15  8:23     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-09-25  0:31 ` [PATCH v6 00/25] Enable CET Virtualization Yang, Weijiang

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