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From: Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@redhat.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: Yang Weijiang <weijiang.yang@intel.com>,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dave.hansen@intel.com,
	peterz@infradead.org, chao.gao@intel.com,
	rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com, john.allen@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 19/25] KVM: VMX: Emulate read and write to CET MSRs
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2023 20:38:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ff6b7e9d90d80feb9dcabb0fbd3808c04db3ff94.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZUJ9fDuQUNe9BLUA@google.com>

On Wed, 2023-11-01 at 09:31 -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 31, 2023, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> > On Thu, 2023-09-14 at 02:33 -0400, Yang Weijiang wrote:
> > > Add emulation interface for CET MSR access. The emulation code is split
> > > into common part and vendor specific part. The former does common check
> > > for MSRs and reads/writes directly from/to XSAVE-managed MSRs via the
> > > helpers while the latter accesses the MSRs linked to VMCS fields.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Yang Weijiang <weijiang.yang@intel.com>
> > > ---
> 
> ...
> 
> > > +	case MSR_IA32_PL0_SSP ... MSR_IA32_PL3_SSP:
> > > +	case MSR_KVM_SSP:
> > > +		if (host_msr_reset && kvm_cpu_cap_has(X86_FEATURE_SHSTK))
> > > +			break;
> > > +		if (!guest_can_use(vcpu, X86_FEATURE_SHSTK))
> > > +			return 1;
> > > +		if (index == MSR_KVM_SSP && !host_initiated)
> > > +			return 1;
> > > +		if (is_noncanonical_address(data, vcpu))
> > > +			return 1;
> > > +		if (index != MSR_IA32_INT_SSP_TAB && !IS_ALIGNED(data, 4))
> > > +			return 1;
> > > +		break;
> > Once again I'll prefer to have an ioctl for setting/getting SSP, this will
> > make the above code simpler (e.g there will be no need to check that write
> > comes from the host/etc).
> 
> I don't think an ioctl() would be simpler overall, especially when factoring in
> userspace.  With a synthetic MSR, we get the following quite cheaply:
> 
>  1. Enumerating support to userspace.
>  2. Save/restore of the value, e.g. for live migration.
>  3. Vendor hooks for propagating values to/from the VMCS/VMCB.
> 
> For an ioctl(), 
> #1 would require a capability, #2 (and #1 to some extent) would
> require new userspace flows, and #3 would require new kvm_x86_ops hooks.
> 
> The synthetic MSR adds a small amount of messiness, as does bundling 
> MSR_IA32_INT_SSP_TAB with the other shadow stack MSRs.  The bulk of the mess comes
> from the need to allow userspace to write '0' when KVM enumerated supported to
> userspace.


Let me put it this way - all hacks start like that, and in this case this is API/ABI hack
so we will have to live with it forever.

Once there is a precedent, trust me there will be 10s of new 'fake' msrs added, and the
interface will become one big mess.

As I suggested, if you don't want to add new capability/ioctl and vendor callback per new
x86 arch register, then let's implement KVM_GET_ONE_REG/KVM_SET_ONE_REG and then it will
be really easy to add new regs without confusing users, and without polluting msr
namespace with msrs that don't exist.


Best regards,
	Maxim Levitsky


> 
> If we isolate MSR_IA32_INT_SSP_TAB, that'll help with the synthetic MSR and with
> MSR_IA32_INT_SSP_TAB.  For the unfortunate "host reset" behavior, the best idea I
> came up with is to add a helper.  It's still a bit ugly, but the ugliness is
> contained in a helper and IMO makes it much easier to follow the case statements.
> 
> get:
> 
> 	case MSR_IA32_INT_SSP_TAB:
> 		if (!guest_can_use(vcpu, X86_FEATURE_SHSTK) ||
> 		    !guest_cpuid_has(vcpu, X86_FEATURE_LM))
> 			return 1;
> 		break;
> 	case MSR_KVM_SSP:
> 		if (!host_initiated)
> 			return 1;
> 		fallthrough;
> 	case MSR_IA32_PL0_SSP ... MSR_IA32_PL3_SSP:
> 		if (!guest_can_use(vcpu, X86_FEATURE_SHSTK))
> 			return 1;
> 		break;
> 
> static bool is_set_cet_msr_allowed(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu, u32 index, u64 data,
> 				   bool host_initiated)
> {
> 	bool any_cet = index == MSR_IA32_S_CET || index == MSR_IA32_U_CET;
> 
> 	if (guest_can_use(vcpu, X86_FEATURE_SHSTK))
> 		return true;
> 
> 	if (any_cet && guest_can_use(vcpu, X86_FEATURE_IBT))
> 		return true;
> 
> 	/* 
> 	 * If KVM supports the MSR, i.e. has enumerated the MSR existence to
> 	 * userspace, then userspace is allowed to write '0' irrespective of
> 	 * whether or not the MSR is exposed to the guest.
> 	 */
> 	if (!host_initiated || data)
> 		return false;
> 
> 	if (kvm_cpu_cap_has(X86_FEATURE_SHSTK))
> 		return true;
> 
> 	return any_cet && kvm_cpu_cap_has(X86_FEATURE_IBT);
> }
> 
> set:
> 	case MSR_IA32_U_CET:
> 	case MSR_IA32_S_CET:
> 		if (!is_set_cet_msr_allowed(vcpu, index, data, host_initiated))
> 			return 1;
> 		if (data & CET_US_RESERVED_BITS)
> 			return 1;
> 		if (!guest_can_use(vcpu, X86_FEATURE_SHSTK) &&
> 		    (data & CET_US_SHSTK_MASK_BITS))
> 			return 1;
> 		if (!guest_can_use(vcpu, X86_FEATURE_IBT) &&
> 		    (data & CET_US_IBT_MASK_BITS))
> 			return 1;
> 		if (!IS_ALIGNED(CET_US_LEGACY_BITMAP_BASE(data), 4))
> 			return 1;
> 
> 		/* IBT can be suppressed iff the TRACKER isn't WAIT_ENDBR. */
> 		if ((data & CET_SUPPRESS) && (data & CET_WAIT_ENDBR))
> 			return 1;
> 		break;
> 	case MSR_IA32_INT_SSP_TAB:
> 		if (!guest_cpuid_has(vcpu, X86_FEATURE_LM))
> 			return 1;
> 
> 		if (is_noncanonical_address(data, vcpu))
> 			return 1;
> 		break;
> 	case MSR_KVM_SSP:
> 		if (!host_initiated)
> 			return 1;
> 		fallthrough;
> 	case MSR_IA32_PL0_SSP ... MSR_IA32_PL3_SSP:
> 		if (!is_set_cet_msr_allowed(vcpu, index, data, host_initiated))
> 			return 1;
> 		if (is_noncanonical_address(data, vcpu))
> 			return 1;
> 		if (!IS_ALIGNED(data, 4))
> 			return 1;
> 		break;
> 	}
> 



  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-02 18:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-14  6:33 [PATCH v6 00/25] Enable CET Virtualization Yang Weijiang
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 01/25] x86/fpu/xstate: Manually check and add XFEATURE_CET_USER xstate bit Yang Weijiang
2023-09-14 22:39   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-09-15  2:32     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-09-15 16:35       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-09-18  7:16         ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:43   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01  9:19     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 02/25] x86/fpu/xstate: Fix guest fpstate allocation size calculation Yang Weijiang
2023-09-14 22:45   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-09-15  2:45     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-09-15 16:35       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-10-21  0:39   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-24  8:50     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-10-24 16:32       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-25 13:49         ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:43         ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 03/25] x86/fpu/xstate: Add CET supervisor mode state support Yang Weijiang
2023-09-15  0:06   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-09-15  6:30     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:44       ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 04/25] x86/fpu/xstate: Introduce kernel dynamic xfeature set Yang Weijiang
2023-09-15  0:24   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-09-15  6:42     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:44       ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 05/25] x86/fpu/xstate: Remove kernel dynamic xfeatures from kernel default_features Yang Weijiang
2023-09-14 16:22   ` Dave Hansen
2023-09-15  1:52     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:44     ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 06/25] x86/fpu/xstate: Opt-in kernel dynamic bits when calculate guest xstate size Yang Weijiang
2023-09-14 17:40   ` Dave Hansen
2023-09-15  2:22     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-10-24 17:07       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-25 14:49         ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-10-26 17:24           ` Sean Christopherson
2023-10-26 22:06             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-10-31 17:45             ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01 14:16               ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-02 18:20                 ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-03 14:33                   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-07 18:04                     ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-14  9:13                       ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 07/25] x86/fpu/xstate: Tweak guest fpstate to support kernel dynamic xfeatures Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:45   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 08/25] x86/fpu/xstate: WARN if normal fpstate contains " Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:45   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 09/25] KVM: x86: Rework cpuid_get_supported_xcr0() to operate on vCPU data Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:46   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01 14:41     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-02 18:25       ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 10/25] KVM: x86: Add kvm_msr_{read,write}() helpers Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:47   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01 19:32     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-02 18:26       ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-15  9:00         ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 11/25] KVM: x86: Report XSS as to-be-saved if there are supported features Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:47   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01 19:18     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-02 18:31       ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 12/25] KVM: x86: Refresh CPUID on write to guest MSR_IA32_XSS Yang Weijiang
2023-10-08  5:54   ` Chao Gao
2023-10-10  0:49     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:51   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01 17:20     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-15  7:18   ` Binbin Wu
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 13/25] KVM: x86: Initialize kvm_caps.supported_xss Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:51   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 14/25] KVM: x86: Load guest FPU state when access XSAVE-managed MSRs Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:51   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01 18:05     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-02 18:31       ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-03  8:46       ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-11-03 14:02         ` Sean Christopherson
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 15/25] KVM: x86: Add fault checks for guest CR4.CET setting Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:51   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 16/25] KVM: x86: Report KVM supported CET MSRs as to-be-saved Yang Weijiang
2023-10-08  6:19   ` Chao Gao
2023-10-10  0:54     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:52   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 17/25] KVM: VMX: Introduce CET VMCS fields and control bits Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:52   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 18/25] KVM: x86: Use KVM-governed feature framework to track "SHSTK/IBT enabled" Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:54   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01 15:46     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-02 18:35       ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-04  0:07         ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-07 18:05           ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 19/25] KVM: VMX: Emulate read and write to CET MSRs Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:55   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01 16:31     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-02 18:38       ` Maxim Levitsky [this message]
2023-11-02 23:58         ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-07 18:12           ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-07 18:39             ` Sean Christopherson
2023-11-03  8:18       ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-11-03 22:26         ` Sean Christopherson
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 20/25] KVM: x86: Save and reload SSP to/from SMRAM Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:55   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 21/25] KVM: VMX: Set up interception for CET MSRs Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:56   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 22/25] KVM: VMX: Set host constant supervisor states to VMCS fields Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:56   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 23/25] KVM: x86: Enable CET virtualization for VMX and advertise to userspace Yang Weijiang
2023-09-24 13:38   ` kernel test robot
2023-09-25  0:26     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:56   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01 22:14     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 24/25] KVM: nVMX: Introduce new VMX_BASIC bit for event error_code delivery to L1 Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:57   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01  4:21   ` Chao Gao
2023-11-15  8:31     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-09-14  6:33 ` [PATCH v6 25/25] KVM: nVMX: Enable CET support for nested guest Yang Weijiang
2023-10-31 17:57   ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-01  2:09   ` Chao Gao
2023-11-01  9:22     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-11-01  9:54     ` Maxim Levitsky
2023-11-15  8:56       ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-11-15  8:23     ` Yang, Weijiang
2023-09-25  0:31 ` [PATCH v6 00/25] Enable CET Virtualization Yang, Weijiang

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