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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito <eesposit@redhat.com>, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@redhat.com>,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] KVM: use signals to abort enter_guest/blocking and retry
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2022 12:05:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6812bb87-f355-eddb-c484-b3bb089dd630@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4ef882c2-1535-d7df-d474-e5fab2975f53@redhat.com>

On 10/24/22 09:43, Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito wrote:
>> Since the userspace should anyway avoid going into this effectively-busy
>> wait, what about clearing the request after the first exit?  The
>> cancellation ioctl can be kept for vCPUs that are never entered after
>> KVM_KICK_ALL_RUNNING_VCPUS.  Alternatively, kvm_clear_all_cpus_request
>> could be done right before up_write().
>
> Clearing makes sense, but should we "trust" the userspace not to go into
> busy wait?

I think so, there are many other ways for userspace to screw up.

> What's the typical "contract" between KVM and the userspace? Meaning,
> should we cover the basic usage mistakes like forgetting to busy wait on
> KVM_RUN?

Being able to remove the second ioctl if you do (sort-of pseudocode 
based on this v1)

	kvm_make_all_cpus_request(kvm, KVM_REQ_USERSPACE_KICK);
	down_write(&kvm->memory_transaction);
	up_write(&kvm->memory_transaction);
	kvm_clear_all_cpus_request(kvm, KVM_REQ_USERSPACE_KICK);

would be worth it, I think.

Paolo


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-10-25 10:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-22 15:48 [PATCH 0/4] KVM: API to block and resume all running vcpus in a vm Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-10-22 15:48 ` [PATCH 1/4] linux-headers/linux/kvm.h: introduce kvm_userspace_memory_region_list ioctl Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-10-22 15:48 ` [PATCH 2/4] KVM: introduce kvm_clear_all_cpus_request Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-10-22 15:48 ` [PATCH 3/4] KVM: introduce memory transaction semaphore Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-10-23 17:50   ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-10-24 12:57     ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-10-25 10:01       ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-10-22 15:48 ` [PATCH 4/4] KVM: use signals to abort enter_guest/blocking and retry Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-10-23 17:48   ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-10-24  7:43     ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-10-24  7:49       ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-10-25 10:05       ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2022-10-24  7:56 ` [PATCH 0/4] KVM: API to block and resume all running vcpus in a vm Christian Borntraeger
2022-10-24  8:33   ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-10-24  9:09     ` Christian Borntraeger
2022-10-24 22:45       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-10-25  9:33         ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-10-25 15:55           ` Sean Christopherson
2022-10-25 21:34             ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-10-25 23:07               ` Sean Christopherson
2022-10-26 17:52                 ` Hyper-V VTLs, permission bitmaps and userspace exits (was Re: [PATCH 0/4] KVM: API to block and resume all running vcpus in a vm) Paolo Bonzini
2022-10-26 19:33                   ` Sean Christopherson

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