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From: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@linux.ibm.com>
To: Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito <eesposit@redhat.com>, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@redhat.com>,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] KVM: API to block and resume all running vcpus in a vm
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2022 09:56:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a2e16531-5522-a334-40a1-2b0e17663800@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221022154819.1823133-1-eesposit@redhat.com>

Am 22.10.22 um 17:48 schrieb Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito:
> This new API allows the userspace to stop all running
> vcpus using KVM_KICK_ALL_RUNNING_VCPUS ioctl, and resume them with
> KVM_RESUME_ALL_KICKED_VCPUS.
> A "running" vcpu is a vcpu that is executing the KVM_RUN ioctl.
> 
> This serie is especially helpful to userspace hypervisors like
> QEMU when they need to perform operations on memslots without the
> risk of having a vcpu reading them in the meanwhile.
> With "memslots operations" we mean grow, shrink, merge and split
> memslots, which are not "atomic" because there is a time window
> between the DELETE memslot operation and the CREATE one.
> Currently, each memslot operation is performed with one or more
> ioctls.
> For example, merging two memslots into one would imply:
> DELETE(m1)
> DELETE(m2)
> CREATE(m1+m2)
> 
> And a vcpu could attempt to read m2 right after it is deleted, but
> before the new one is created.
> 
> Therefore the simplest solution is to pause all vcpus in the kvm
> side, so that:
> - userspace just needs to call the new API before making memslots
> changes, keeping modifications to the minimum
> - dirty page updates are also performed when vcpus are blocked, so
> there is no time window between the dirty page ioctl and memslots
> modifications, since vcpus are all stopped.
> - no need to modify the existing memslots API
Isnt QEMU able to achieve the same goal today by forcing all vCPUs
into userspace with a signal? Can you provide some rationale why this
is better in the cover letter or patch description?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-10-24  7:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-22 15:48 Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-10-22 15:48 ` [PATCH 1/4] linux-headers/linux/kvm.h: introduce kvm_userspace_memory_region_list ioctl Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-10-22 15:48 ` [PATCH 2/4] KVM: introduce kvm_clear_all_cpus_request Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-10-22 15:48 ` [PATCH 3/4] KVM: introduce memory transaction semaphore Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-10-23 17:50   ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-10-24 12:57     ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-10-25 10:01       ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-10-22 15:48 ` [PATCH 4/4] KVM: use signals to abort enter_guest/blocking and retry Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-10-23 17:48   ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-10-24  7:43     ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-10-24  7:49       ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-10-25 10:05       ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-10-24  7:56 ` Christian Borntraeger [this message]
2022-10-24  8:33   ` [PATCH 0/4] KVM: API to block and resume all running vcpus in a vm Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-10-24  9:09     ` Christian Borntraeger
2022-10-24 22:45       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-10-25  9:33         ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-10-25 15:55           ` Sean Christopherson
2022-10-25 21:34             ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-10-25 23:07               ` Sean Christopherson
2022-10-26 17:52                 ` Hyper-V VTLs, permission bitmaps and userspace exits (was Re: [PATCH 0/4] KVM: API to block and resume all running vcpus in a vm) Paolo Bonzini
2022-10-26 19:33                   ` Sean Christopherson

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