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From: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>
To: David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com>
Cc: "Sun, Yi" <yi.sun@intel.com>,
	"Hansen, Dave" <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"Mehta, Sohil" <sohil.mehta@intel.com>,
	"Su, Heng" <heng.su@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] x86/fpu: Measure the Latency of XSAVE and XRSTOR
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2022 23:00:19 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <75084D4E-80AC-4FE7-8CDD-2BFD30D23695@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <921078bc2a994d3ab6aba26d4654cb47@AcuMS.aculab.com>

RDTSC has returned values invariant of current frequency since Nehalem (modulo a few hiccoughs). So any CPU with XSAVE/XRESTOR should be safe to measure using TSC.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 24, 2022, at 14:16, David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com> wrote:
> 
> From: Yi Sun
>> Sent: 23 July 2022 09:38
>> 
>> Calculate the latency of instructions xsave and xrstor with new trace
>> points x86_fpu_latency_xsave and x86_fpu_latency_xrstor.
>> 
>> The delta TSC can be calculated within a single trace event. Another
>> option considered was to have 2 separated trace events marking the
>> start and finish of the xsave/xrstor instructions. The delta TSC was
>> calculated from the 2 trace points in user space, but there was
>> significant overhead added by the trace function itself.
>> 
>> In internal testing, the single trace point option which is
>> implemented here proved to be more accurate.
> ...
> 
> I've done some experiments that measure short instruction latencies.
> Basically I found:
> 1) You need a suitable serialising instruction before and after
>   the code being tested - otherwise it can overlap whatever
>   you are using for timing.
> 2) The only reliable counter is the performance monitor clock
>   counter - everything else depends on the current cpu frequency.
>   On intel cpu the cpu frequency can change all the time.
> Allowing for that, and then ignoring complete outliers, I could
> get clock-count accurate values for iterations of the IP csum loop.
> 
>    David
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-24 23:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-23  8:37 [PATCH 0/2] x86: Add xsave/xrstor Latency Trace Events and Consuming Script Yi Sun
2022-07-23  8:37 ` [PATCH 1/2] x86/fpu: Measure the Latency of XSAVE and XRSTOR Yi Sun
2022-07-24 20:54   ` David Laight
2022-07-24 23:00     ` Luck, Tony [this message]
2022-07-25  7:35       ` David Laight
2022-07-25 17:44     ` Dave Hansen
2022-07-26  7:41       ` David Laight
2022-07-26  9:03     ` 'Yi Sun'
2022-07-28 18:46   ` Sohil Mehta
2022-07-23  8:38 ` [PATCH 2/2] scripts/x86: Add script to consume trace log of xsave latency Yi Sun

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