From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito <eesposit@redhat.com>,
Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@redhat.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>,
Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
x86@kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Like Xu <like.xu.linux@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/9] kvm: implement atomic memslot updates
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2022 18:00:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <75243b83-f85d-3d51-7df4-3e95abbb7ef4@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d8d2bd39-cbb3-010d-266a-4e967765a382@redhat.com>
> The main cases are:
>
> - for the boot case, splitting and merging existing memslots. QEMU
> likes to merge adjacent memory regions into a single memslot, so if
> something goes from read-write to read-only it has to be split and vice
> versa. I guess a "don't merge this memory region" flag would be the
> less hideous way to solve it in userspace.
>
> - however, there is also the case of resizing an existing memslot which
> is what David would like to have for virtio-mem. This is not really
> fixable because part of the appeal of virtio-mem is to have a single
> huge memslot instead of many smaller ones, in order to reduce the
> granularity of add/remove (David, correct me if I'm wrong).
Yes, the most important case I am working on in that regard is reducing
the memslot size/overhead when only exposing comparatively little memory
towards a VM using virtio-mem (say, a virtio-mem device that could grow
to 1 TiB, but we initially only expose 1 GiB to the VM).
One approach I prototyped in the past (where my RFC for atomic updates
came into play because I ran into this issue) to achieve that was
dynamically growing (and eventually shrinking) a single memslot on demand.
An alternative [1] uses multiple individual memslots, and exposes them
on demand. There, I have to make sure that QEMU won't merge adjacent
memslots into a bigger one -- because otherwise, we'd again need atomic
memslot updates again, which KVM, vhost-user, ... don't support. But in
the future, I think we want to have that: if there is no fragmentation,
we should only have a single large memslot and all memslot consumers
should be able to cope with atomic updates.
So in any case, I will have good use for atomic memslot updates. Just
like other hypervisors that (will) implement virtio-mem or something
comparable :)
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20211013103330.26869-1-david@redhat.com/T/#u
--
Thanks,
David / dhildenb
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-09-29 16:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-09-09 10:44 Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-09-09 10:44 ` [RFC PATCH 1/9] kvm_main.c: move slot check in kvm_set_memory_region Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-09-28 16:41 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-09-09 10:44 ` [RFC PATCH 2/9] kvm.h: introduce KVM_SET_USER_MEMORY_REGION_LIST ioctl Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-09-28 16:42 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-09-09 10:45 ` [RFC PATCH 3/9] kvm_main.c: introduce kvm_internal_memory_region_list Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-09-28 16:48 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-09-09 10:45 ` [RFC PATCH 4/9] kvm_main.c: split logic in kvm_set_memslots Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-09-28 17:04 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-09-09 10:45 ` [RFC PATCH 5/9] kvm_main.c: split __kvm_set_memory_region logic in kvm_check_mem and kvm_prepare_batch Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-09-13 2:56 ` Yang, Weijiang
2022-09-18 16:22 ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-09-28 17:11 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-09-09 10:45 ` [RFC PATCH 6/9] kvm_main.c: simplify change-specific callbacks Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-09-09 10:45 ` [RFC PATCH 7/9] kvm_main.c: duplicate invalid memslot also in inactive list Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-09-28 17:18 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-09-09 10:45 ` [RFC PATCH 8/9] kvm_main.c: find memslots from the inactive memslot list Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-09-09 10:45 ` [RFC PATCH 9/9] kvm_main.c: handle atomic memslot update Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-09-13 2:30 ` Yang, Weijiang
2022-09-18 16:18 ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-09-27 7:46 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-09-27 8:35 ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-09-27 9:22 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-09-27 9:32 ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-09-27 14:52 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-09-28 17:29 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-09-09 14:30 ` [RFC PATCH 0/9] kvm: implement atomic memslot updates Sean Christopherson
2022-09-18 16:13 ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-09-19 7:38 ` Like Xu
2022-09-19 7:53 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-09-19 17:30 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-09-23 13:10 ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-09-23 13:21 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-09-23 13:38 ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-09-26 9:03 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-09-26 21:28 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-09-27 7:38 ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-09-27 15:58 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-09-28 9:11 ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-09-28 11:14 ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-09-28 12:52 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-09-28 15:07 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-09-28 15:33 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-09-28 15:58 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-09-28 16:38 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-09-28 20:41 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-09-29 8:05 ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-09-29 8:24 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-09-29 15:18 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-09-29 15:41 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-09-29 15:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-09-29 15:40 ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-09-29 16:00 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2022-09-29 21:39 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-10-13 7:43 ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-10-13 8:44 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-10-13 11:12 ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-10-13 14:45 ` David Hildenbrand
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