From: Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@redhat.com>
To: Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito <eesposit@redhat.com>,
Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>,
Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
x86@kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Like Xu <like.xu.linux@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/9] kvm: implement atomic memslot updates
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2022 14:14:24 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e3a7ab12e3941e17c033e172eb063cc645d70eb4.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b3dc9505-9a5c-a631-065a-85bf86b1d071@redhat.com>
On Wed, 2022-09-28 at 11:11 +0200, Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito wrote:
>
> Am 27/09/2022 um 17:58 schrieb Sean Christopherson:
> > On Tue, Sep 27, 2022, Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito wrote:
> > > Am 26/09/2022 um 23:28 schrieb Sean Christopherson:
> > > > On Mon, Sep 26, 2022, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > > > > As Sean said "This is an awful lot of a complexity to take on for something
> > > > > that appears to be solvable in userspace."
> > > >
> > > > And if the userspace solution is unpalatable for whatever reason, I'd like to
> > > > understand exactly what KVM behavior is problematic for userspace. E.g. the
> > > > above RHBZ bug should no longer be an issue as the buggy commit has since been
> > > > reverted.
> > >
> > > It still is because I can reproduce the bug, as also pointed out in
> > > multiple comments below.
> >
> > You can reproduce _a_ bug, but it's obviously not the original bug, because the
> > last comment says:
> >
> > Second, indeed the patch was reverted and somehow accepted without generating
> > too much noise:
> >
> > ...
> >
> > The underlying issue of course as we both know is still there.
> >
> > You might have luck reproducing it with this bug
> >
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1855298
> >
> > But for me it looks like it is 'working' as well, so you might have
> > to write a unit test to trigger the issue.
> >
> > > > If the issue is KVM doing something nonsensical on a code fetch to MMIO, then I'd
> > > > much rather fix _that_ bug and improve KVM's user exit ABI to let userspace handle
> > > > the race _if_ userspace chooses not to pause vCPUs.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Also on the BZ they all seem (Paolo included) to agree that the issue is
> > > non-atomic memslots update.
> >
> > Yes, non-atomic memslot likely results in the guest fetching from a GPA without a
> > memslot. I'm asking for an explanation of exactly what happens when that occurs,
> > because it should be possible to adjust KVM and/or QEMU to play nice with the
> > fetch, e.g. to resume the guest until the new memslot is installed, in which case
> > an atomic update isn't needed.
> >
> > I assume the issue is that KVM exits with KVM_EXIT_INTERNAL_ERROR because the
> > guest is running at CPL=0, and QEMU kills the guest in response. If that's correct,
> > then that problem can be solved by exiting to userspace with KVM_EXIT_MMIO instead
> > of KVM_EXIT_INTERNAL_ERROR so that userspace can do something sane in response to
> > the MMIO code fetch.
> >
> > I'm pretty sure this patch will Just Work for QEMU, because QEMU simply resumes
> > the vCPU if mmio.len==0. It's a bit of a hack, but I don't think it violates KVM's
> > ABI in any way, and it can even become "official" behavior since KVM x86 doesn't
> > otherwise exit with mmio.len==0.
> >
> > Compile tested only...
>
> So basically you are just making KVM catch the failed
> kvm_vcpu_read_guest_page() by retuning mmio.len = 0 to QEMU which
> basically ends up in doing nothing and retry again executing the
> instruction?
>
> I wonder if there are some performance implications in this, but it's
> definitely simpler than what I did.
>
> Tested on the same failing machine used for the BZ, fixes the bug.
>
> Do you want me to re-send the patch on your behalf (and add probably a
> small documentation on Documentation/virt/kvm/api.rst)?
>
> Emanuele
> > ---
> > From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
> > Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2022 08:16:03 -0700
> > Subject: [PATCH] KVM: x86: Exit to userspace with zero-length MMIO "read" on
> > MMIO fetch
> >
> > Exit to userspace with KVM_EXIT_MMIO if emulation fails due to not being
> > able to fetch instruction bytes, e.g. if the resolved GPA isn't backed by
> > a memslot. If userspace is manipulating memslots without pausing vCPUs,
> > e.g. to emulate BIOS relocation, then a vCPU may fetch while there is no
> > valid memslot installed. Depending on guest context, KVM will either
> > exit to userspace with KVM_EXIT_INTERNAL_ERROR (L1, CPL=0) or simply
> > resume the guest (L2 or CPL>0), neither of which is desirable as exiting
> > with "emulation error" effectively kills the VM, and resuming the guest
> > doesn't provide userspace an opportunity to react the to fetch.
> >
> > Use "mmio.len == 0" to indicate "fetch". This is a bit of a hack, but
> > there is no other way to communicate "fetch" to userspace without
> > defining an entirely new exit reason, e.g. "mmio.is_write" is a boolean
> > and not a flag, and there is no known use case for actually supporting
> > code fetches from MMIO, i.e. there's no need to allow userspace to fill
> > in the instruction bytes.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
> > ---
> > arch/x86/kvm/emulate.c | 2 ++
> > arch/x86/kvm/kvm_emulate.h | 1 +
> > arch/x86/kvm/x86.c | 9 ++++++++-
> > 3 files changed, 11 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/emulate.c b/arch/x86/kvm/emulate.c
> > index f092c54d1a2f..e141238d93b0 100644
> > --- a/arch/x86/kvm/emulate.c
> > +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/emulate.c
> > @@ -5353,6 +5353,8 @@ int x86_decode_insn(struct x86_emulate_ctxt *ctxt, void *insn, int insn_len, int
> > done:
> > if (rc == X86EMUL_PROPAGATE_FAULT)
> > ctxt->have_exception = true;
> > + if (rc == X86EMUL_IO_NEEDED)
> > + return EMULATION_IO_FETCH;
> > return (rc != X86EMUL_CONTINUE) ? EMULATION_FAILED : EMULATION_OK;
> > }
> >
> > diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/kvm_emulate.h b/arch/x86/kvm/kvm_emulate.h
> > index 89246446d6aa..3cb2e321fcd2 100644
> > --- a/arch/x86/kvm/kvm_emulate.h
> > +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/kvm_emulate.h
> > @@ -516,6 +516,7 @@ bool x86_page_table_writing_insn(struct x86_emulate_ctxt *ctxt);
> > #define EMULATION_OK 0
> > #define EMULATION_RESTART 1
> > #define EMULATION_INTERCEPTED 2
> > +#define EMULATION_IO_FETCH 3
> > void init_decode_cache(struct x86_emulate_ctxt *ctxt);
> > int x86_emulate_insn(struct x86_emulate_ctxt *ctxt);
> > int emulator_task_switch(struct x86_emulate_ctxt *ctxt,
> > diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c b/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
> > index aa5ab0c620de..7eb72694c601 100644
> > --- a/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
> > +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
> > @@ -7129,8 +7129,13 @@ static int kvm_fetch_guest_virt(struct x86_emulate_ctxt *ctxt,
> > bytes = (unsigned)PAGE_SIZE - offset;
> > ret = kvm_vcpu_read_guest_page(vcpu, gpa >> PAGE_SHIFT, val,
> > offset, bytes);
> > - if (unlikely(ret < 0))
> > + if (unlikely(ret < 0)) {
> > + vcpu->run->mmio.phys_addr = gpa;
> > + vcpu->run->mmio.len = 0;
> > + vcpu->run->mmio.is_write = 0;
> > + vcpu->run->exit_reason = KVM_EXIT_MMIO;
> > return X86EMUL_IO_NEEDED;
> > + }
> >
> > return X86EMUL_CONTINUE;
> > }
> > @@ -8665,6 +8670,8 @@ int x86_emulate_instruction(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu, gpa_t cr2_or_gpa,
> > r = x86_decode_emulated_instruction(vcpu, emulation_type,
> > insn, insn_len);
> > if (r != EMULATION_OK) {
> > + if (r == EMULATION_IO_FETCH)
> > + return 0;
> > if ((emulation_type & EMULTYPE_TRAP_UD) ||
> > (emulation_type & EMULTYPE_TRAP_UD_FORCED)) {
> > kvm_queue_exception(vcpu, UD_VECTOR);
> >
> > base-commit: 39d9b48cc777bdf6d67d01ed24f1f89b13f5fbb2
> >
Note that AFAIK, there is another case (and probably more), if TDP is disabled,
and MMU root is in mmio, we kill the guest.
mmu_alloc_shadow_roots -> mmu_check_root
I used to have few hacks in KVM to cope with this, but AFAIK,
I gave up on it, because the issue would show up again and again.
Best regards,
Maxim Levitsky
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-09-28 11:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-09-09 10:44 Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-09-09 10:44 ` [RFC PATCH 1/9] kvm_main.c: move slot check in kvm_set_memory_region Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-09-28 16:41 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-09-09 10:44 ` [RFC PATCH 2/9] kvm.h: introduce KVM_SET_USER_MEMORY_REGION_LIST ioctl Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-09-28 16:42 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-09-09 10:45 ` [RFC PATCH 3/9] kvm_main.c: introduce kvm_internal_memory_region_list Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-09-28 16:48 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-09-09 10:45 ` [RFC PATCH 4/9] kvm_main.c: split logic in kvm_set_memslots Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-09-28 17:04 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-09-09 10:45 ` [RFC PATCH 5/9] kvm_main.c: split __kvm_set_memory_region logic in kvm_check_mem and kvm_prepare_batch Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-09-13 2:56 ` Yang, Weijiang
2022-09-18 16:22 ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-09-28 17:11 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-09-09 10:45 ` [RFC PATCH 6/9] kvm_main.c: simplify change-specific callbacks Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-09-09 10:45 ` [RFC PATCH 7/9] kvm_main.c: duplicate invalid memslot also in inactive list Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-09-28 17:18 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-09-09 10:45 ` [RFC PATCH 8/9] kvm_main.c: find memslots from the inactive memslot list Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-09-09 10:45 ` [RFC PATCH 9/9] kvm_main.c: handle atomic memslot update Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-09-13 2:30 ` Yang, Weijiang
2022-09-18 16:18 ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-09-27 7:46 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-09-27 8:35 ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-09-27 9:22 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-09-27 9:32 ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-09-27 14:52 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-09-28 17:29 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-09-09 14:30 ` [RFC PATCH 0/9] kvm: implement atomic memslot updates Sean Christopherson
2022-09-18 16:13 ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-09-19 7:38 ` Like Xu
2022-09-19 7:53 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-09-19 17:30 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-09-23 13:10 ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-09-23 13:21 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-09-23 13:38 ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-09-26 9:03 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-09-26 21:28 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-09-27 7:38 ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-09-27 15:58 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-09-28 9:11 ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-09-28 11:14 ` Maxim Levitsky [this message]
2022-09-28 12:52 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-09-28 15:07 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-09-28 15:33 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-09-28 15:58 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-09-28 16:38 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-09-28 20:41 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-09-29 8:05 ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-09-29 8:24 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-09-29 15:18 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-09-29 15:41 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-09-29 15:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-09-29 15:40 ` Maxim Levitsky
2022-09-29 16:00 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-09-29 21:39 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-10-13 7:43 ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-10-13 8:44 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-10-13 11:12 ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-10-13 14:45 ` David Hildenbrand
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