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From: Usama Arif <usama.arif@linux.dev>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: david@kernel.org, chrisl@kernel.org, kasong@tencent.com,
	ljs@kernel.org, ziy@nvidia.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
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Subject: Re: [RESEND v7 00/29] mm: PMD-level swap entries for anonymous THPs
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2026 11:22:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7666a248-4411-419f-a2ce-42a71a51126a@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260915170010.0667b6dee268fb6fb29a3fee@linux-foundation.org>



On 16/09/2026 01:00, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Sep 2026 15:09:16 +0100 Usama Arif <usama.arif@linux.dev> wrote:
> 
>>
>> Four workers repeatedly write the working set, forcing memory to be
>> swapped out and back in. The results below are the medians of five
>> interleaved runs per kernel, following one warm-up run:
>>
>> Metric                           Baseline median   Patched median   Change
>> Aggregate benchmark throughput   584.3 MiB/s       2,408.9 MiB/s    +312.2% (4.12x)
>> Elapsed time                     85.43 s           20.72 s          -75.7%
>> Major faults                     1,814,699         228,466          -87.4%
>> Swap I/O rate                    1.02 GiB/s        4.10 GiB/s       +303.9%
>>
>> The results look good as this is a swap-intensive workload.
>> It primarily demonstrates the reduction in swap-fault and page-table
>> overhead from preserving PMD mappings.
>>
>> For long-running workloads, where I believe the series will shine, I expect
>> benefits from fewer TLB misses, less khugepaged work as well as less kernel churn
>> due to larger folios, although there aren't a lot of benchmarks to test that.
>> PMD swap entries also move us closer to eliminating page-table deposits for
>> anonymous THPs, which would provide memory savings.
>>
> 
> Thanks.  Wow.
> 
> This doesn't look totally real-world but it's close enough to indicate
> that real people doing real things will see nice benefits from this
> change.  As expected - leaving post-swapin thp reassembly to khugepaged
> was so lame.
> 

Yes, exactly! I initially left it out because case-swap-w-seq is a
swap-intensive synthetic workload and might not be a representative
application benchmark. Completely agree that lower reliance on
khugepaged will be a much bigger impact of this series. Unfortunately
I cant find any benchmark that would capture the affect of that.

> Please add the above info to the [0/N] and maintain it.
> 

Will do!

> (I'm itching to get this moving ahead, but we do need eyes on those
> core bits).

Thanks for helping move this forward!

      reply	other threads:[~2026-09-16 10:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-14 12:27 Usama Arif
2026-09-14 12:27 ` [RESEND v7 01/29] mm: rename pmd_to_softleaf_folio() to pmd_softleaf_to_folio() Usama Arif
2026-09-14 21:17   ` Barry Song
2026-09-15  3:06   ` Baoquan He
2026-09-15  3:34   ` Qi Zheng
2026-09-14 12:27 ` [RESEND v7 02/29] arm64: mm: add PMD swap-exclusive helpers Usama Arif
2026-09-14 12:27 ` [RESEND v7 03/29] loongarch: " Usama Arif
2026-09-14 12:27 ` [RESEND v7 04/29] powerpc: " Usama Arif
2026-09-14 12:27 ` [RESEND v7 05/29] riscv: " Usama Arif
2026-09-14 12:27 ` [RESEND v7 06/29] s390: " Usama Arif
2026-09-14 12:27 ` [RESEND v7 07/29] x86: " Usama Arif
2026-09-16 14:31   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-14 12:27 ` [RESEND v7 08/29] mm: recognize PMD swap entries in the softleaf layer Usama Arif
2026-09-16 14:47   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-14 12:27 ` [RESEND v7 09/29] mm/debug_vm_pgtable: test PMD swap-exclusive helpers Usama Arif
2026-09-16 14:52   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-14 12:28 ` [RESEND v7 10/29] mm: make PMD migration-entry splitting explicit Usama Arif
2026-09-16 14:58   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-14 12:28 ` [RESEND v7 11/29] mm: split PMD swap entries into PTE swap entries Usama Arif
2026-09-16 15:08   ` Kiryl Shutsemau
2026-09-14 12:28 ` [RESEND v7 12/29] mm: handle PMD swap entries in fork path Usama Arif
2026-09-14 12:28 ` [RESEND v7 13/29] mm: zswap: reject high-order swap cache allocations backed by zswap Usama Arif
2026-09-14 12:28 ` [RESEND v7 14/29] mm: swap in PMD swap entries as whole THPs during swapoff Usama Arif
2026-09-14 12:28 ` [RESEND v7 15/29] fs/proc: account PMD swap entries in smaps Usama Arif
2026-09-14 12:28 ` [RESEND v7 16/29] mm: handle soft-dirty and uffd-wp on PMD swap entries Usama Arif
2026-09-14 12:28 ` [RESEND v7 17/29] mm/hmm: fault PMD swap entries on demand Usama Arif
2026-09-14 12:28 ` [RESEND v7 18/29] mm: free PMD swap entries in zap_huge_pmd() Usama Arif
2026-09-14 12:28 ` [RESEND v7 19/29] mm/madvise: free PMD swap entries with MADV_FREE Usama Arif
2026-09-14 12:28 ` [RESEND v7 20/29] mm/madvise: skip PMD swap entries for MADV_COLD and MADV_PAGEOUT Usama Arif
2026-09-14 12:28 ` [RESEND v7 21/29] mm/madvise: keep PMD swap entries whole for MADV_GUARD_INSTALL/REMOVE Usama Arif
2026-09-14 12:28 ` [RESEND v7 22/29] mm/mincore: report PMD swap-cache residency Usama Arif
2026-09-14 12:28 ` [RESEND v7 23/29] mm/khugepaged: treat PMD swap entries as mapped THPs Usama Arif
2026-09-14 12:28 ` [RESEND v7 24/29] mm: handle PMD swap entries in MADV_WILLNEED Usama Arif
2026-09-14 12:28 ` [RESEND v7 25/29] mm: handle PMD swap entries in UFFDIO_MOVE Usama Arif
2026-09-14 12:28 ` [RESEND v7 26/29] mm: don't PTE-batch a swap-in over a hardware-poisoned subpage Usama Arif
2026-09-14 12:28 ` [RESEND v7 27/29] mm: handle PMD swap entry faults on swap-in Usama Arif
2026-09-14 12:28 ` [RESEND v7 28/29] mm: install PMD swap entries on swap-out Usama Arif
2026-09-14 12:28 ` [RESEND v7 29/29] selftests/mm: add PMD swap entry tests Usama Arif
2026-09-15  3:32 ` [RESEND v7 00/29] mm: PMD-level swap entries for anonymous THPs Andrew Morton
2026-09-15 14:09   ` Usama Arif
2026-09-16  0:00     ` Andrew Morton
2026-09-16 10:22       ` Usama Arif [this message]

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