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From: John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com>
To: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.com>,
	Benjamin Marzinski <bmarzins@redhat.com>
Cc: martin.petersen@oracle.com,
	james.bottomley@hansenpartnership.com, jmeneghi@redhat.com,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, michael.christie@oracle.com,
	snitzer@kernel.org, dm-devel@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/13] scsi: Core ALUA driver
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2026 12:16:10 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7755e98f-5619-48ba-bcfc-b64eec930c40@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ff1d65e0-bb5a-4dc1-8bbc-dc781acb341d@suse.com>

On 26/03/2026 10:19, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
>> @@ -80,6 +80,7 @@ config SCSI_MULTIPATH
>>          bool "SCSI multipath support"
>>          depends on SCSI_MOD
>>          select LIBMULTIPATH
>> +       select SCSI_DH_ALUA
>>          help
>>            This option enables support for native SCSI multipath 
>> support for
>>            SCSI host.
>>
>> And that is even enough, as Kconfigs should only specify build 
>> requirements.
>>
>> We really should be also calling something like scsi_dh_attach() for 
>> scsi multipath to ensure that DH is attached (and running to update 
>> sdev->access_state).
>>
>> And I am not sure how the dh alua module is even autoloaded. I think 
>> that on my ubuntu machine the multipath-tools.service does it - 
>> something like this would not be nice for native SCSI multipath support.
>>
> Gnaa. But then we don't need this patchset at all.
> Main point was that we _do not_ need to hook into scsi dh for implicit
> ALUA.

But again I don't think that this is good enough. Native SCSI 
multipathing will read sdev->access_state to know ALUA state. We can't 
just rely on dh alua module running and doing what we need to know that 
this value is valid. AFAICS, dm mpath relies on dh alua module to even 
work at all:

device-mapper: table: 252:1: multipath: error attaching hardware
handler (-EINVAL)

At this point I am more inclined to just have a small SCSI core ALUA 
support for implicit ALUA, and allow scsi_dh_alua.c reuse functions from 
that but not use sdev->alua structure, like in this series - trying that 
is turning into a mess, I am finding.

Thanks,
John

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-26 12:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-17 12:06 John Garry
2026-03-17 12:06 ` [PATCH 01/13] scsi: scsi_dh_alua: Delete alua_port_group John Garry
2026-03-18  7:44   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-03-18  8:53     ` John Garry
2026-03-23  0:08   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2026-03-23 10:33     ` John Garry
2026-03-23 16:15       ` Benjamin Marzinski
2026-03-23 18:07         ` John Garry
2026-03-17 12:06 ` [PATCH 02/13] scsi: alua: Create a core ALUA driver John Garry
2026-03-18  7:47   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-03-23 12:56     ` John Garry
2026-03-18 17:17   ` kernel test robot
2026-03-18 22:54   ` kernel test robot
2026-03-17 12:06 ` [PATCH 03/13] scsi: alua: Add scsi_alua_rtpg() John Garry
2026-03-18  7:50   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-03-23 12:58     ` John Garry
2026-03-17 12:06 ` [PATCH 04/13] scsi: alua: Add scsi_alua_stpg() John Garry
2026-03-18  7:53   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-03-17 12:06 ` [PATCH 05/13] scsi: alua: Add scsi_alua_tur() John Garry
2026-03-18  7:54   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-03-23 13:42     ` John Garry
2026-03-24 10:49       ` John Garry
2026-03-17 12:06 ` [PATCH 06/13] scsi: alua: Add scsi_alua_rtpg_run() John Garry
2026-03-17 12:06 ` [PATCH 07/13] scsi: alua: Add scsi_alua_stpg_run() John Garry
2026-03-18  7:57   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-03-18  8:59     ` John Garry
2026-03-18  9:24       ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-03-23 13:58         ` John Garry
2026-03-17 12:06 ` [PATCH 08/13] scsi: alua: Add scsi_alua_check_tpgs() John Garry
2026-03-18  7:57   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-03-17 12:06 ` [PATCH 09/13] scsi: alua: Add scsi_alua_handle_state_transition() John Garry
2026-03-18  7:58   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-03-23 13:43     ` John Garry
2026-03-17 12:07 ` [PATCH 10/13] scsi: alua: Add scsi_alua_prep_fn() John Garry
2026-03-18  8:01   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-03-23 13:49     ` John Garry
2026-03-17 12:07 ` [PATCH 11/13] scsi: alua: Add scsi_device_alua_implicit() John Garry
2026-03-18  8:02   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-03-23 13:50     ` John Garry
2026-03-17 12:07 ` [PATCH 12/13] scsi: scsi_dh_alua: Switch to use core support John Garry
2026-03-23  1:47   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2026-03-23 11:59     ` John Garry
2026-03-17 12:07 ` [PATCH 13/13] scsi: core: Add implicit ALUA support John Garry
2026-03-18  8:08   ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-03-18 23:08   ` kernel test robot
2026-03-23  1:58   ` Benjamin Marzinski
2026-03-23 12:52     ` John Garry
2026-03-23 17:29       ` Benjamin Marzinski
2026-03-23 18:13         ` John Garry
2026-03-22 17:37 ` [PATCH 00/13] scsi: Core ALUA driver Benjamin Marzinski
2026-03-23  9:57   ` John Garry
2026-03-23 16:25     ` Benjamin Marzinski
2026-03-23 18:04       ` John Garry
2026-03-23 19:45         ` Benjamin Marzinski
2026-03-24 10:57           ` John Garry
2026-03-24 13:58             ` Benjamin Marzinski
2026-03-24 15:12               ` John Garry
2026-03-24 15:48                 ` Benjamin Marzinski
2026-03-24 16:25                   ` John Garry
2026-03-26 10:19                 ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-03-26 12:16                   ` John Garry [this message]
2026-03-27  7:02                     ` Hannes Reinecke
2026-03-26 10:17               ` Hannes Reinecke

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