From: Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: baolu.lu@linux.intel.com, "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
"Raj, Ashok" <ashok.raj@intel.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.com>,
Eric Auger <eric.auger@redhat.com>,
"Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>,
"Pan, Jacob jun" <jacob.jun.pan@intel.com>,
"iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 02/11] iommu: Add iommu_group_singleton_lockdown()
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2022 17:51:03 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <77dafe0b-a601-def6-c6bd-287d464ce892@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220405141008.GS2120790@nvidia.com>
On 2022/4/5 22:10, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 05, 2022 at 02:12:42PM +0800, Lu Baolu wrote:
>> On 2022/4/5 1:24, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>>> On Mon, Apr 04, 2022 at 01:43:49PM +0800, Lu Baolu wrote:
>>>> On 2022/3/30 19:58, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>>>>>>> Testing the group size is inherently the wrong test to make.
>>>>>> What is your suggestion then?
>>>>> Add a flag to the group that positively indicates the group can never
>>>>> have more than one member, even after hot plug. eg because it is
>>>>> impossible due to ACS, or lack of bridges, and so on.
>>>>
>>>> The check method seems to be bus specific. For platform devices, perhaps
>>>> this kind of information should be retrieved from firmware interfaces
>>>> like APCI or DT.
>>>>
>>>> From this point of view, would it be simpler and more reasonable for the
>>>> device driver to do such check? After all, it is the device driver that
>>>> decides whether to provide SVA services to the application via uacce.
>>>
>>> The check has to do with the interconnect, not the device - I don't
>>> see how a device driver would know any better.
>>
>> I'm worried about how to support this group flag for devices that are
>> not connected to the system through PCI buses. If IOMMU can support
>> sva_bind() only when this flag is set, the SVA on many devices cannot
>> be supported. Or this flag is always set for non PCI devices by
>> default?
>
> IHMO it is not so different from how we determine if ACS like
> functionality is supported on non-PCI. It is really just a more narrow
> application of the existing ACS idea.
>
> For instance it may be that if the iommu_group came from DT we can
> assume it is static and then singleton can know ACS is reliable.
Okay, let me head this direction.
Best regards,
baolu
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-04-06 13:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-03-29 5:37 [PATCH RFC v2 00/11] iommu: SVA and IOPF refactoring Lu Baolu
2022-03-29 5:37 ` [PATCH RFC v2 01/11] iommu: Add pasid_bits field in struct dev_iommu Lu Baolu
2022-03-29 21:00 ` Jacob Pan
2022-03-30 4:30 ` Lu Baolu
2022-03-30 7:05 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-30 11:58 ` Lu Baolu
2022-03-29 5:37 ` [PATCH RFC v2 02/11] iommu: Add iommu_group_singleton_lockdown() Lu Baolu
2022-03-29 8:42 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-29 11:42 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-30 6:50 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-30 11:57 ` Lu Baolu
2022-03-30 11:58 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-30 14:12 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-30 14:30 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-02 7:12 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-04-02 23:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-06 10:02 ` Lu Baolu
2022-04-06 10:44 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-04-06 11:03 ` Lu Baolu
2022-04-06 23:56 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-30 14:18 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-30 15:04 ` Alex Williamson
2022-04-04 5:43 ` Lu Baolu
2022-04-04 17:24 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-05 6:12 ` Lu Baolu
2022-04-05 14:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-06 9:51 ` Lu Baolu [this message]
2022-04-01 6:20 ` Yi Liu
2022-04-01 11:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-30 4:59 ` Lu Baolu
2022-03-30 6:55 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-04-01 5:49 ` Yi Liu
2022-03-29 5:37 ` [PATCH RFC v2 03/11] iommu/sva: Add iommu_domain type for SVA Lu Baolu
2022-03-29 21:38 ` Jacob Pan
2022-03-30 4:35 ` Lu Baolu
2022-03-30 19:02 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-02 8:43 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-04-02 23:32 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-04 6:09 ` Lu Baolu
2022-04-06 1:00 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-04-06 1:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-06 5:58 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-04-06 12:32 ` Robin Murphy
2022-04-06 13:06 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-06 13:37 ` Robin Murphy
2022-04-06 14:01 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-07 0:11 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-29 5:37 ` [PATCH RFC v2 04/11] iommu: Add attach/detach_dev_pasid domain ops Lu Baolu
2022-03-30 19:08 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-04 6:47 ` Lu Baolu
2022-03-29 5:37 ` [PATCH RFC v2 05/11] iommu/vt-d: Remove SVM_FLAG_SUPERVISOR_MODE suport Lu Baolu
2022-03-29 5:37 ` [PATCH RFC v2 06/11] iommu/vt-d: Add SVA domain support Lu Baolu
2022-03-30 19:09 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-04 6:52 ` Lu Baolu
2022-03-29 5:37 ` [PATCH RFC v2 07/11] arm-smmu-v3/sva: " Lu Baolu
2022-03-29 5:37 ` [PATCH RFC v2 08/11] iommu/sva: Use attach/detach_pasid_dev in SVA interfaces Lu Baolu
2022-03-31 20:59 ` Jacob Pan
2022-03-31 22:26 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-04 5:55 ` Lu Baolu
2022-03-29 5:37 ` [PATCH RFC v2 09/11] iommu: Remove SVA related callbacks from iommu ops Lu Baolu
2022-03-29 5:37 ` [PATCH RFC v2 10/11] iommu: Per-domain I/O page fault handling Lu Baolu
2022-03-29 5:38 ` [PATCH RFC v2 11/11] iommu: Rename iommu-sva-lib.{c,h} Lu Baolu
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