From: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
To: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
"Raj, Ashok" <ashok.raj@intel.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.com>,
Eric Auger <eric.auger@redhat.com>,
"Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>,
"Pan, Jacob jun" <jacob.jun.pan@intel.com>,
"iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 03/11] iommu/sva: Add iommu_domain type for SVA
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2022 13:32:07 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d0f6caea-0cd9-d839-c9fb-0fe49c2bad16@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BN9PR11MB52764E3DE16E19D1F1515D008CE79@BN9PR11MB5276.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
On 2022-04-06 06:58, Tian, Kevin wrote:
>> From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2022 9:24 AM
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 06, 2022 at 01:00:13AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
>>
>>>> Because domains wrap more than just the IOPTE format, they have
>>>> additional data related to the IOMMU HW block itself. Imagine a SOC
>>>> with two IOMMU HW blocks that can both process the CPU IOPTE format,
>>>> but have different configuration.
>>>
>>> Curious. Is it hypothesis or real? If real can you help give a concrete
>>> example?
>>
>> Look at arm_smmu_attach_dev() - the domain has exactly one smmu
>> pointer which contains the base address for the SMMU IP block. If the
>> domain doesn't match the smmu pointer from the struct device it won't
>> allow attaching.
>>
>> I know of ARM SOCs with many copies of the SMMU IP block.
>>
>> So at least with current drivers ARM seems to have this limitation.
>>
>
> I saw that code, but before this series it is used only for stage-2 instead
> of SVA. and I didn't see similar check in the old sva related paths (though
> it doesn't use domain):
>
> arm_smmu_master_sva_enable_iopf()
> arm_smmu_master_enable_sva{}
> __arm_smmu_sva_bind()
>
> If I didn't overlook some trick hiding in the call chain of those functions,
> is there a bug in the existing SMMU sva logic or is it conceptually correct
> to not have such check for SVA?
The current SVA APIs are all device-based, so implicitly reflect
whichever SMMU instance serves the given device. Once domains come into
the picture, callers are going to have to be more aware that a domain
may be specific to a particular IOMMU instance, and potentially allocate
separate domains for separate devices to represent the same address
space, much like vfio_iommu_type1_attach_group() does.
It's not really worth IOMMU drivers trying to support a domain spanning
potentially-heterogeneous instances internally, since they can't
reasonably know what matters in any particular situation. That's
primarily why we've never tried to do it in the SMMU drivers. It's a lot
easier for relevant callers to look at what they get and figure out
whether any mismatch in capabilities is tolerable or not.
Robin.
> If the former then yes we have to take SMMU IP block into consideration
> thus could have multiple domains per CPU page table. If the latter then
> this is not a valid example for that configuration.
>
> Which one is correct?
>
> Thanks
> Kevin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-04-06 15:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-03-29 5:37 [PATCH RFC v2 00/11] iommu: SVA and IOPF refactoring Lu Baolu
2022-03-29 5:37 ` [PATCH RFC v2 01/11] iommu: Add pasid_bits field in struct dev_iommu Lu Baolu
2022-03-29 21:00 ` Jacob Pan
2022-03-30 4:30 ` Lu Baolu
2022-03-30 7:05 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-30 11:58 ` Lu Baolu
2022-03-29 5:37 ` [PATCH RFC v2 02/11] iommu: Add iommu_group_singleton_lockdown() Lu Baolu
2022-03-29 8:42 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-29 11:42 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-30 6:50 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-30 11:57 ` Lu Baolu
2022-03-30 11:58 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-30 14:12 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-30 14:30 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-02 7:12 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-04-02 23:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-06 10:02 ` Lu Baolu
2022-04-06 10:44 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-04-06 11:03 ` Lu Baolu
2022-04-06 23:56 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-30 14:18 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-30 15:04 ` Alex Williamson
2022-04-04 5:43 ` Lu Baolu
2022-04-04 17:24 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-05 6:12 ` Lu Baolu
2022-04-05 14:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-06 9:51 ` Lu Baolu
2022-04-01 6:20 ` Yi Liu
2022-04-01 11:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-03-30 4:59 ` Lu Baolu
2022-03-30 6:55 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-04-01 5:49 ` Yi Liu
2022-03-29 5:37 ` [PATCH RFC v2 03/11] iommu/sva: Add iommu_domain type for SVA Lu Baolu
2022-03-29 21:38 ` Jacob Pan
2022-03-30 4:35 ` Lu Baolu
2022-03-30 19:02 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-02 8:43 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-04-02 23:32 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-04 6:09 ` Lu Baolu
2022-04-06 1:00 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-04-06 1:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-06 5:58 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-04-06 12:32 ` Robin Murphy [this message]
2022-04-06 13:06 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-06 13:37 ` Robin Murphy
2022-04-06 14:01 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-07 0:11 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-03-29 5:37 ` [PATCH RFC v2 04/11] iommu: Add attach/detach_dev_pasid domain ops Lu Baolu
2022-03-30 19:08 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-04 6:47 ` Lu Baolu
2022-03-29 5:37 ` [PATCH RFC v2 05/11] iommu/vt-d: Remove SVM_FLAG_SUPERVISOR_MODE suport Lu Baolu
2022-03-29 5:37 ` [PATCH RFC v2 06/11] iommu/vt-d: Add SVA domain support Lu Baolu
2022-03-30 19:09 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-04 6:52 ` Lu Baolu
2022-03-29 5:37 ` [PATCH RFC v2 07/11] arm-smmu-v3/sva: " Lu Baolu
2022-03-29 5:37 ` [PATCH RFC v2 08/11] iommu/sva: Use attach/detach_pasid_dev in SVA interfaces Lu Baolu
2022-03-31 20:59 ` Jacob Pan
2022-03-31 22:26 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-04 5:55 ` Lu Baolu
2022-03-29 5:37 ` [PATCH RFC v2 09/11] iommu: Remove SVA related callbacks from iommu ops Lu Baolu
2022-03-29 5:37 ` [PATCH RFC v2 10/11] iommu: Per-domain I/O page fault handling Lu Baolu
2022-03-29 5:38 ` [PATCH RFC v2 11/11] iommu: Rename iommu-sva-lib.{c,h} Lu Baolu
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