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From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: Khushit Shah <khushit.shah@nutanix.com>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"kai.huang@intel.com" <kai.huang@intel.com>,
	 "mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
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	"hpa@zytor.com" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	 "dave.hansen@linux.intel.com" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	 Jon Kohler <jon@nutanix.com>,
	Shaju Abraham <shaju.abraham@nutanix.com>,
	"stable@vger.kernel.org" <stable@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] KVM: x86: Add x2APIC "features" to control EOI broadcast suppression
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2025 16:04:06 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7c35e9e79c62803e3cb61be9cd013daf1e5aa4d1.camel@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aS8I6T3WtM1pvPNl@google.com>

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On Tue, 2025-12-02 at 07:42 -0800, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> 
> The issue is that KVM "enables" SUPPRESS_EOI_BROADCAST in that the feature is
> exposed to the guest and can be enabled in local APICs, and that's one of the
> behaviors/configurations I want to preserve so that guests don't observe a feature
> change.  Having an on/off switch doesn't work because KVM isn't fully disabling
> the feature, nor is KVM fully enabling the feature.  It's a weird, half-baked
> state, hence the QUIRK.
> 
> More importantly, we can't use ENABLE bits because I want to preserve existing
> behavior exactly as-is.  I.e. userspace needs to opt-in to disabling
> SUPPRESS_EOI_BROADCAST and/or to disabling IGNORE_SUPPRESS_EOI_BROADCAST_QUIRK.

To respond to that part directly...

The legacy behaviour we need to preserve is neither fully enabled, nor
fully disabled. I agree that the default needs to remain this weird
half-baked quirk.

But now we are giving userspace a chance to explicitly choose either a
proper ENABLE or a proper DISABLE, and isn't that what those flags
should be called?

You have ENABLE, you have DISABLE, and you have a warning that you
probably ought to choose one of them because the default you get
otherwise is weirdly broken (but there for legacy compatibility).



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      parent reply	other threads:[~2025-12-02 16:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-25 18:05 Khushit Shah
2025-11-25 21:16 ` Huang, Kai
2025-12-02  9:13 ` David Woodhouse
2025-12-02 12:58   ` Khushit Shah
2025-12-02 13:31     ` David Woodhouse
2025-12-02 15:42       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-12-02 15:51         ` David Woodhouse
2025-12-02 16:36           ` Sean Christopherson
2025-12-02 17:10             ` David Woodhouse
2025-12-02 22:26               ` Sean Christopherson
2025-12-02 22:35                 ` David Woodhouse
2025-12-03  0:50             ` Huang, Kai
2025-12-03  1:14               ` David Woodhouse
2025-12-03 12:25               ` David Woodhouse
2025-12-03 13:10                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-12-03 13:32                   ` David Woodhouse
2025-12-03 13:36                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-12-03 13:55                       ` David Woodhouse
2025-12-03  7:45             ` Khushit Shah
2025-12-02 16:04         ` David Woodhouse [this message]

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