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From: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
To: "Finn Thain" <fthain@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: "Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Will Deacon" <will@kernel.org>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Mark Rutland" <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux-Arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-m68k@vger.kernel.org, "Lance Yang" <lance.yang@linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 2/3] atomic: Specify alignment for atomic_t and atomic64_t
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2025 08:44:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7de25cf0-595e-4b8e-b0da-6e5a66ec1358@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <60325e45-e4a7-d0cf-ba28-a1a811f9a890@linux-m68k.org>

On Wed, Oct 1, 2025, at 03:03, Finn Thain wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Sep 2025, Arnd Bergmann wrote:

>> What is the alignment of stack variables on m68k? E.g. if you have a 
>> function with two local variables, would that still be able to trigger 
>> the check?
>> 
>> int f(atomic64_t *a)
>> {
>>      u16 pad;
>>      u64 old;
>>      
>>      g(&pad);
>>      atomic64_try_cmpxchg(a, &old, 0);
>> }
>> 
>
> I assume so:
>
> int foo(void) {
>     short s;
>     long long ll;
>     return alignof(ll);
> }
>
> # Compilation provided by Compiler Explorer at https://godbolt.org/
> foo():
>         link.w %fp,#0
>         moveq #2,%d0
>         unlk %fp
>         rts

This just returns the guaranteed alignment of the 'long long'
type based on -malign-int/-mno-align-int. Checking again I
find that gcc's m68k-linux target aligns stack allocations
to 4 bytes, though the m68k-unknown target apparently keeps
the 2 byte alignment:

https://gcc.gnu.org/legacy-ml/gcc-patches/2007-09/msg01572.html

https://godbolt.org/z/48fGMj56W

Surprisingly the godbolt.org link also shows a significant
overhead when building the same code with -malign-int
in the second tab. This is unrelated to the issue here,
but I wonder if that is something to report to the gcc
bug tracker if we ever get to building the kernel with
-malign-int. Similarly, I noticed that clang does not
support the -malign-int flag on m68k at all.

>> Since there is nothing telling the compiler that the 'old' argument to 
>> atomic*_try_cmpcxchg() needs to be naturally aligned, maybe that check 
>> should be changed to only test for the ABI-guaranteed alignment? I think 
>> that would still be needed on x86-32.
>>  
>
> I don't know why we would check the alignment of the 'old' quantity. It's 
> going to be loaded into a register before being used, right?

I was wondering about that as well, but checking for alignof(*old)
probably can't hurt. The only architectures that actually have
a custom arch_try_cmpxchg*() are s390 and x86 and those don't
care about alignmnent of 'old', but it's possible that another
architecture that can't handle unaligned load/store would add
an inline asm implementation in the future and break if an
alignment fixup happens in the middle of an ll/sc loop.

      Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-01  6:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-14  0:45 [RFC v2 0/3] Align atomic storage Finn Thain
2025-09-14  0:45 ` [RFC v2 3/3] atomic: Add alignment check to instrumented atomic operations Finn Thain
2025-09-15  8:00   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-15  9:38     ` Finn Thain
2025-09-15 10:06       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-15 10:37         ` Finn Thain
2025-09-15 11:20           ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-16  0:16             ` Finn Thain
2025-09-16 10:10               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-09-17  1:23                 ` Finn Thain
2025-09-16 12:37               ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-16 21:38                 ` Brad Boyer
2025-09-17 16:54                   ` Andreas Schwab
2025-09-17  2:14                 ` Finn Thain
2025-09-22 15:49                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-23  6:39                     ` Finn Thain
2025-09-14  0:45 ` [RFC v2 2/3] atomic: Specify alignment for atomic_t and atomic64_t Finn Thain
2025-09-15  7:13   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-09-15  7:35   ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-15  8:06     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-15  9:26     ` Finn Thain
2025-09-15  9:29       ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-22  7:06   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-09-22  8:16     ` Finn Thain
2025-09-22  9:29       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-09-22 15:21       ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-23  6:28         ` Finn Thain
2025-09-23  6:41           ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-23  8:05             ` Finn Thain
2025-09-23 19:11               ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-30  2:18           ` Finn Thain
2025-09-30  6:35             ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-10-01  1:03               ` Finn Thain
2025-10-01  6:44                 ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2025-10-06  9:25                   ` Finn Thain
2025-10-06  9:25               ` Finn Thain
2025-10-06 10:07                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-10-06 10:22                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-06 11:09                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-10-06  9:37               ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-30  7:41             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-10-01  1:46               ` Finn Thain
2025-10-01  7:08                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-09-14  0:45 ` [RFC v2 1/3] documentation: Discourage alignment assumptions Finn Thain

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