From: Finn Thain <fthain@linux-m68k.org>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Linux-Arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-m68k@vger.kernel.org,
John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 3/3] atomic: Add alignment check to instrumented atomic operations
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2025 11:23:28 +1000 (AEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aeb17f15-de44-e46e-cb3a-0edc1551d3e1@linux-m68k.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdV92Lu646bJ3cmEoR5C4rfkFsaf0E_uYPbSiLwrTtMbTw@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, 16 Sep 2025, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Sept 2025 at 02:16, Finn Thain <fthain@linux-m68k.org> wrote:
> > On Mon, 15 Sep 2025, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > >
> > > Has there been any progress on building m68k kernels with
> > > -mint-align?
> >
> > Not that I know of.
> >
> > > IIRC there are only a small number of uapi structures that need
> > > __packed annotations to maintain the existing syscall ABI.
> >
> > Packing uapi structures (and adopting -malign-int) sounds easier than
> > the alternative, which might be to align certain internal kernel
> > struct members, on a case-by-case basis, where doing so could be shown
> > to improve performance on some architecture or other (while keeping
> > -mno-align-int).
>
> indeed.
>
Well, it "sounds easier". But I doubt that it really is easier.
> > Well, it's easy to find all the structs that belong to the uapi, but
> > it's not easy to find all the internal kernel structs that describe
> > MMIO registers. For -malign-int, both kinds of structs are a problem.
>
> For structures under arch/m68k/include/asm/, just create a single C file
> that calculates sizeof() of each structure, and compare the generated
> code with and without -malign-int. Any differences should be
> investigated, and attributed when needed.
>
> For structures inside m68k-specific drivers, do something similar inside
> those drivers ('git grep "struct\s*[a-zA-Z0-9_]*\s*{"' is your friend).
>
There's something to be said for adding static_assert() checks for the
structs that belong to all fixed interfaces. The patches to actually pack
of struct members could take place after that.
All of which is a lot of work, compared to specifying alignment for those
core kernel data structures where doing so improves performance. This
approach is platform neutral; it's not just m68k that benefits.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-17 1:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-14 0:45 [RFC v2 0/3] Align atomic storage Finn Thain
2025-09-14 0:45 ` [RFC v2 2/3] atomic: Specify alignment for atomic_t and atomic64_t Finn Thain
2025-09-15 7:13 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-09-15 7:35 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-15 8:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-15 9:26 ` Finn Thain
2025-09-15 9:29 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-22 7:06 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-09-22 8:16 ` Finn Thain
2025-09-22 9:29 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-09-22 15:21 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-23 6:28 ` Finn Thain
2025-09-23 6:41 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-23 8:05 ` Finn Thain
2025-09-23 19:11 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-30 2:18 ` Finn Thain
2025-09-30 6:35 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-10-01 1:03 ` Finn Thain
2025-10-01 6:44 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-10-06 9:25 ` Finn Thain
2025-10-06 9:25 ` Finn Thain
2025-10-06 10:07 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-10-06 10:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-06 11:09 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-10-06 9:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-30 7:41 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-10-01 1:46 ` Finn Thain
2025-10-01 7:08 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-09-14 0:45 ` [RFC v2 3/3] atomic: Add alignment check to instrumented atomic operations Finn Thain
2025-09-15 8:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-15 9:38 ` Finn Thain
2025-09-15 10:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-15 10:37 ` Finn Thain
2025-09-15 11:20 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-16 0:16 ` Finn Thain
2025-09-16 10:10 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2025-09-17 1:23 ` Finn Thain [this message]
2025-09-16 12:37 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-16 21:38 ` Brad Boyer
2025-09-17 16:54 ` Andreas Schwab
2025-09-17 2:14 ` Finn Thain
2025-09-22 15:49 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-09-23 6:39 ` Finn Thain
2025-09-14 0:45 ` [RFC v2 1/3] documentation: Discourage alignment assumptions Finn Thain
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