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From: JeeHeng Sia <jeeheng.sia@starfivetech.com>
To: Andrew Jones <ajones@ventanamicro.com>
Cc: "paul.walmsley@sifive.com" <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	"palmer@dabbelt.com" <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	"aou@eecs.berkeley.edu" <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
	"linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Leyfoon Tan <leyfoon.tan@starfivetech.com>,
	Mason Huo <mason.huo@starfivetech.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v4 4/4] RISC-V: Add arch functions to support hibernation/suspend-to-disk
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2023 05:33:32 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <803ac603023c4eeda4a0b8e414cce6f1@EXMBX066.cuchost.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230228050457.zfbflfawctaccepv@orel>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Jones <ajones@ventanamicro.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, 28 February, 2023 1:05 PM
> To: JeeHeng Sia <jeeheng.sia@starfivetech.com>
> Cc: paul.walmsley@sifive.com; palmer@dabbelt.com; aou@eecs.berkeley.edu; linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org; linux-
> kernel@vger.kernel.org; Leyfoon Tan <leyfoon.tan@starfivetech.com>; Mason Huo <mason.huo@starfivetech.com>
> Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 4/4] RISC-V: Add arch functions to support hibernation/suspend-to-disk
> 
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 01:32:53AM +0000, JeeHeng Sia wrote:
> > > > > > 	load image;
> > > > > > loop:	Create pbe chain, return error if failed;
> > > > >
> > > > > This loop pseudocode is incomplete. It's
> > > > >
> > > > > loop:
> > > > >         if (swsusp_page_is_forbidden(page) && swsusp_page_is_free(page))
> > > > > 	   return page_address(page);
> > > > > 	Create pbe chain, return error if failed;
> > > > > 	...
> > > > >
> > > > > which I pointed out explicitly in my last reply. Also, as I asked in my
> > > > > last reply (and have been asking four times now, albeit less explicitly
> > > > > the first two times), how do we know at least one PBE will be linked?
> > > > 1 PBE correspond to 1 page, you shouldn't expect only 1 page is saved.
> > >
> > > I know PBEs correspond to pages. *Why* should I not expect only one page
> > > is saved? Or, more importantly, why should I expect more than zero pages
> > > are saved?
> > >
> > > Convincing answers might be because we *always* put the restore code in
> > > pages which get added to the PBE list or that the original page tables
> > > *always* get put in pages which get added to the PBE list. It's not very
> > > convincing to simply *assume* that at least one random page will always
> > > meet the PBE list criteria.
> > >
> > > > Hibernation core will do the calculation. If the PBEs (restore_pblist) linked successfully, the hibernated image will be restore else
> > > normal boot will take place.
> > > > > Or, even more specifically this time, where is the proof that for each
> > > > > hibernation resume, there exists some page such that
> > > > > !swsusp_page_is_forbidden(page) or !swsusp_page_is_free(page) is true?
> > > > forbidden_pages and free_pages are not contributed to the restore_pblist (as you already aware from the code). Infact, the
> > > forbidden_pages and free_pages are not save into the disk.
> > >
> > > Exactly, so those pages are *not* going to contribute to the greater than
> > > zero pages. What I've been asking for, from the beginning, is to know
> > > which page(s) are known to *always* contribute to the list. Or, IOW, how
> > > do you know the PBE list isn't empty, a.k.a restore_pblist isn't NULL?
> > Well, this is keep going around in a circle, thought the answer is in the hibernation code. restore_pblist get the pointer from the PBE,
> and the PBE already checked for validity.
> 
> It keeps going around in circles because you keep avoiding my question by
> pointing out trivial linked list code. I'm not worried about the linked
> list code being correct. My concern is that you're using a linked list
> with an assumption that it is not empty. My question has been all along,
> how do you know it's not empty?
> 
> I'll change the way I ask this time. Please take a look at your PBE list
> and let me know if there are PBEs on it that must be there on each
> hibernation resume, e.g. the resume code page is there or whatever.
> 
> > Can I suggest you to submit a patch to the hibernation core?
> 
> Why? What's wrong with it?
Kindly let me draw 2 scenarios for you. Option 1 is to add the restore_pblist checking to the hibernation core and option 2 is to add restore_pblist checking to the arch solution
Although I really don't think it is needed. But if you really wanted to add the checking, I would suggest to go with option 1. again, I really think that it is not needed!

	//Option 1
	//Pseudocode to illustrate the image loading
	initialize restore_pblist to null;
	initialize safe_pages_list to null;
	Allocate safe page list, return error if failed;
	load image;
loop:	Create pbe chain, return error if failed;
	assign orig_addr and safe_page to pbe;
	link pbe to restore_pblist;
	/* Add checking here */
	return error if restore_pblist equal to null;
	return pbe to handle->buffer;
	check handle->buffer;
	goto loop if no error else return with error;

	//option 2
	//Pseudocode to illustrate the image loading
	initialize restore_pblist to null;
	initialize safe_pages_list to null;
	Allocate safe page list, return error if failed;
	load image;
loop:	Create pbe chain, return error if failed;
	assign orig_addr and safe_page to pbe;
	link pbe to restore_pblist;
	return pbe to handle->buffer;
	check handle->buffer;
	goto loop if no error else return with error;
	everything works correctly, continue the rest of the operation
	invoke swsusp_arch_resume

	//@swsusp_arch_resume()
loop2: return error if restore_pblist is null
	increment restore_pblist and goto loop2
	create temp_pg_table
	continue the rest of the resume operation
> 
> Thanks,
> drew

  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-28  5:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-21  2:35 [PATCH v4 0/4] RISC-V Hibernation Support Sia Jee Heng
2023-02-21  2:35 ` [PATCH v4 1/4] RISC-V: Change suspend_save_csrs and suspend_restore_csrs to public function Sia Jee Heng
2023-02-23  6:39   ` Andrew Jones
2023-02-24  1:33     ` JeeHeng Sia
2023-02-21  2:35 ` [PATCH v4 2/4] RISC-V: Factor out common code of __cpu_resume_enter() Sia Jee Heng
2023-02-23  6:51   ` Andrew Jones
2023-02-24  1:33     ` JeeHeng Sia
2023-02-24 10:19   ` Alexandre Ghiti
2023-02-27  2:21     ` JeeHeng Sia
2023-02-21  2:35 ` [PATCH v4 3/4] RISC-V: mm: Enable huge page support to kernel_page_present() function Sia Jee Heng
2023-02-23  6:57   ` Andrew Jones
2023-02-24  1:33     ` JeeHeng Sia
2023-02-24 10:21   ` Alexandre Ghiti
2023-02-21  2:35 ` [PATCH v4 4/4] RISC-V: Add arch functions to support hibernation/suspend-to-disk Sia Jee Heng
2023-02-23 18:07   ` Andrew Jones
2023-02-24  2:05     ` JeeHeng Sia
2023-02-24  9:00       ` Andrew Jones
2023-02-24  9:33         ` JeeHeng Sia
2023-02-24  9:55           ` Andrew Jones
2023-02-24 10:30             ` JeeHeng Sia
2023-02-24 12:07               ` Andrew Jones
2023-02-27  2:14                 ` JeeHeng Sia
2023-02-27  7:59                   ` Andrew Jones
2023-02-27 10:52                     ` JeeHeng Sia
2023-02-27 11:44                       ` Andrew Jones
2023-02-28  1:32                         ` JeeHeng Sia
2023-02-28  5:04                           ` Andrew Jones
2023-02-28  5:33                             ` JeeHeng Sia [this message]
2023-02-28  7:18                               ` Andrew Jones
2023-02-28  7:29                                 ` JeeHeng Sia
2023-02-28  7:37                                   ` Andrew Jones
2023-03-03  1:53                                     ` JeeHeng Sia
2023-03-03  8:09                                       ` Andrew Jones
2023-02-28  6:33                             ` JeeHeng Sia
2023-02-28  7:29                               ` Andrew Jones
2023-02-28  7:34                                 ` JeeHeng Sia
2023-02-24  2:12   ` JeeHeng Sia
2023-02-24 12:29   ` Alexandre Ghiti
2023-02-27  3:11     ` JeeHeng Sia
2023-02-27 20:31       ` Alexandre Ghiti
2023-02-28  1:20         ` JeeHeng Sia

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