From: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
To: Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com>,
Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri@intel.com>,
"Ravi V. Shankar" <ravi.v.shankar@intel.com>,
Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>,
Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>,
Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
Ionela Voinescu <ionela.voinescu@arm.com>,
x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Tim C . Chen" <tim.c.chen@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 06/10] sched/fair: Use the prefer_sibling flag of the current sched domain
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2023 13:17:09 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8300f288-7157-5e2d-3bb3-badcffd15d34@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230210183155.GA11997@ranerica-svr.sc.intel.com>
On 10/02/2023 19:31, Ricardo Neri wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 05:12:30PM +0000, Valentin Schneider wrote:
>> On 10/02/23 17:53, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>> On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 02:54:56PM +0000, Valentin Schneider wrote:
>>>
>>>> So something like have SD_PREFER_SIBLING affect the SD it's on (and not
>>>> its parent), but remove it from the lowest non-degenerated topology level?
>>>
>>> So I was rather confused about the whole moving it between levels things
>>> this morning -- conceptually, prefer siblings says you want to try
>>> sibling domains before filling up your current domain. Now, balancing
>>> between siblings happens one level up, hence looking at child->flags
>>> makes perfect sense.
>>>
>>> But looking at the current domain and still calling it prefer sibling
>>> makes absolutely no sense what so ever.
>>>
>>
>> True :-)
>>
>>> In that confusion I think I also got the polarity wrong, I thought you
>>> wanted to kill prefer_sibling for the assymetric SMT cases, instead you
>>> want to force enable it as long as there is one SMT child around.
>
> Exactly.
>
>>>
>>> Whichever way around it we do it, I'm thinking perhaps some renaming
>>> might be in order to clarify things.
>>>
>>> How about adding a flag SD_SPREAD_TASKS, which is the effective toggle
>>> of the behaviour, but have it be set by children with SD_PREFER_SIBLING
>>> or something.
>>>
>>
>> Or entirely bin SD_PREFER_SIBLING and stick with SD_SPREAD_TASKS, but yeah
>> something along those lines.
>
> I sense a consesus towards SD_SPREAD_TASKS.
Can you not detect the E-core dst_cpu case on MC with:
+ if (child)
+ sds->prefer_sibling = child->flags & SD_PREFER_SIBLING;
+ else if (sds->busiest)
+ sds->prefer_sibling = sds->busiest->group_weight > 1;
+
[...]
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-02-13 12:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-02-07 4:58 [PATCH v3 00/10] sched/fair: Avoid unnecessary migrations within SMT domains Ricardo Neri
2023-02-07 4:58 ` [PATCH v3 01/10] sched/fair: Generalize asym_packing logic for SMT cores Ricardo Neri
2023-02-07 4:58 ` [PATCH v3 02/10] sched/fair: Move is_core_idle() out of CONFIG_NUMA Ricardo Neri
2023-02-07 4:58 ` [PATCH v3 03/10] sched/fair: Only do asym_packing load balancing from fully idle SMT cores Ricardo Neri
2023-02-07 4:58 ` [PATCH v3 04/10] sched/fair: Let low-priority cores help high-priority busy " Ricardo Neri
2023-02-08 7:56 ` Vincent Guittot
2023-02-09 11:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-10 0:43 ` Ricardo Neri
2023-02-10 8:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-10 13:05 ` Ricardo Neri
2023-02-10 1:52 ` Ricardo Neri
2023-02-13 13:40 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-02-13 23:23 ` Ricardo Neri
2023-03-10 0:51 ` Tim Chen
2023-03-14 23:54 ` Ricardo Neri
2023-02-07 4:58 ` [PATCH v3 05/10] sched/fair: Keep a fully_busy SMT sched group as busiest Ricardo Neri
2023-02-07 4:58 ` [PATCH v3 06/10] sched/fair: Use the prefer_sibling flag of the current sched domain Ricardo Neri
2023-02-08 7:48 ` Vincent Guittot
2023-02-10 13:24 ` Ricardo Neri
2023-02-09 13:17 ` Chen Yu
2023-02-09 20:00 ` Chen, Tim C
2023-02-09 23:05 ` Tim Chen
2023-02-10 3:16 ` Ricardo Neri
2023-02-10 6:55 ` Chen Yu
2023-02-10 10:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-10 14:54 ` Valentin Schneider
2023-02-10 16:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-10 17:12 ` Valentin Schneider
2023-02-10 18:31 ` Ricardo Neri
2023-02-13 12:17 ` Dietmar Eggemann [this message]
2023-02-14 6:43 ` Ricardo Neri
2023-02-16 5:21 ` Ricardo Neri
2023-02-16 12:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-17 1:41 ` Ricardo Neri
2023-02-23 10:09 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-02-24 12:29 ` Ricardo Neri
[not found] ` <tencent_60A804570F09C0CFE0495D5B984941123A05@qq.com>
2023-02-20 9:45 ` Valentin Schneider
[not found] ` <tencent_6C38D389245FD03C6E1312999FEDD394F606@qq.com>
2023-02-21 18:15 ` Valentin Schneider
2023-02-07 4:58 ` [PATCH v3 07/10] sched/fair: Do not even the number of busy CPUs via asym_packing Ricardo Neri
2023-02-13 12:44 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-02-13 19:47 ` Ricardo Neri
2023-02-07 4:58 ` [PATCH v3 08/10] sched/topology: Remove SHARED_CHILD from ASYM_PACKING Ricardo Neri
2023-03-03 11:29 ` Ionela Voinescu
2023-03-05 19:08 ` Ricardo Neri
2023-03-06 13:10 ` Ionela Voinescu
2023-03-06 18:17 ` Ricardo Neri
2023-02-07 4:58 ` [PATCH v3 09/10] x86/sched: Remove SD_ASYM_PACKING from the SMT domain flags Ricardo Neri
2023-02-07 4:58 ` [PATCH v3 10/10] x86/sched/itmt: Give all SMT siblings of a core the same priority Ricardo Neri
2023-02-09 8:07 ` [PATCH v3 00/10] sched/fair: Avoid unnecessary migrations within SMT domains Zhang, Rui
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