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From: Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>
To: tmmdh <921889738@qq.com>, hupu <921889738@qq.com>, peterz@infradead.org
Cc: bristot@redhat.com, bsegall@google.com, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
	hupu@oppo.com, ionela.voinescu@arm.com, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	len.brown@intel.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	mgorman@suse.de, rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com,
	ravi.v.shankar@intel.com, ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com,
	ricardo.neri@intel.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com, tim.c.chen@intel.com,
	tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com, vincent.guittot@linaro.org,
	x86@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 06/10] sched/fair: Use the prefer_sibling flag of the current sched domain
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 18:15:34 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xhsmhttzeq3zt.mognet@vschneid.remote.csb> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <tencent_6C38D389245FD03C6E1312999FEDD394F606@qq.com>

On 21/02/23 17:49, tmmdh wrote:
> From: Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>
> But I am still confused by Peter's description about prefer_sibling in the last email, linked at
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/Y+Z2b%2FOtZDk9cT53@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net/
>> this morning -- conceptually, prefer siblings says you want to try
>> sibling domains before filling up your current domain.
>
> Why should we try sibling domains before filling up your current domain? Why does Peter think that sibling domains is better than current domain.
> My understanding about this problem is described as follows, but I am not
> sure if it is correct. I think the sibling domain is a domain lower than
> the current level. Just like SMT is the sibling of MC, while DIE is the
> sibling of NUMA.

That's the wrong way around; going up (or down) the sched_domain hierarchy is
done via parent (or child) pointers. Sibling means going sideways (i.e. the
same topology level but viewed from a different CPU)

> Is it because the cpus covered by sibling domains share more resources (such as cache), which can improve the performance of task running?
>

If sibling domains are in same cache hierarchy then spreading tasks between
them can improve overall performance. That doesn't work with NUMA or
big.LITTLE domains, so we don't have the flag on those.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-02-21 18:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-07  4:58 [PATCH v3 00/10] sched/fair: Avoid unnecessary migrations within SMT domains Ricardo Neri
2023-02-07  4:58 ` [PATCH v3 01/10] sched/fair: Generalize asym_packing logic for SMT cores Ricardo Neri
2023-02-07  4:58 ` [PATCH v3 02/10] sched/fair: Move is_core_idle() out of CONFIG_NUMA Ricardo Neri
2023-02-07  4:58 ` [PATCH v3 03/10] sched/fair: Only do asym_packing load balancing from fully idle SMT cores Ricardo Neri
2023-02-07  4:58 ` [PATCH v3 04/10] sched/fair: Let low-priority cores help high-priority busy " Ricardo Neri
2023-02-08  7:56   ` Vincent Guittot
2023-02-09 11:53     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-10  0:43       ` Ricardo Neri
2023-02-10  8:41         ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-10 13:05           ` Ricardo Neri
2023-02-10  1:52     ` Ricardo Neri
2023-02-13 13:40   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-02-13 23:23     ` Ricardo Neri
2023-03-10  0:51   ` Tim Chen
2023-03-14 23:54     ` Ricardo Neri
2023-02-07  4:58 ` [PATCH v3 05/10] sched/fair: Keep a fully_busy SMT sched group as busiest Ricardo Neri
2023-02-07  4:58 ` [PATCH v3 06/10] sched/fair: Use the prefer_sibling flag of the current sched domain Ricardo Neri
2023-02-08  7:48   ` Vincent Guittot
2023-02-10 13:24     ` Ricardo Neri
2023-02-09 13:17   ` Chen Yu
2023-02-09 20:00     ` Chen, Tim C
2023-02-09 23:05       ` Tim Chen
2023-02-10  3:16         ` Ricardo Neri
2023-02-10  6:55         ` Chen Yu
2023-02-10 10:08   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-10 14:54     ` Valentin Schneider
2023-02-10 16:53       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-10 17:12         ` Valentin Schneider
2023-02-10 18:31           ` Ricardo Neri
2023-02-13 12:17             ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-02-14  6:43               ` Ricardo Neri
2023-02-16  5:21                 ` Ricardo Neri
2023-02-16 12:16                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-17  1:41                     ` Ricardo Neri
2023-02-23 10:09                   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-02-24 12:29                     ` Ricardo Neri
     [not found]         ` <tencent_60A804570F09C0CFE0495D5B984941123A05@qq.com>
2023-02-20  9:45           ` Valentin Schneider
     [not found]             ` <tencent_6C38D389245FD03C6E1312999FEDD394F606@qq.com>
2023-02-21 18:15               ` Valentin Schneider [this message]
2023-02-07  4:58 ` [PATCH v3 07/10] sched/fair: Do not even the number of busy CPUs via asym_packing Ricardo Neri
2023-02-13 12:44   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-02-13 19:47     ` Ricardo Neri
2023-02-07  4:58 ` [PATCH v3 08/10] sched/topology: Remove SHARED_CHILD from ASYM_PACKING Ricardo Neri
2023-03-03 11:29   ` Ionela Voinescu
2023-03-05 19:08     ` Ricardo Neri
2023-03-06 13:10       ` Ionela Voinescu
2023-03-06 18:17         ` Ricardo Neri
2023-02-07  4:58 ` [PATCH v3 09/10] x86/sched: Remove SD_ASYM_PACKING from the SMT domain flags Ricardo Neri
2023-02-07  4:58 ` [PATCH v3 10/10] x86/sched/itmt: Give all SMT siblings of a core the same priority Ricardo Neri
2023-02-09  8:07 ` [PATCH v3 00/10] sched/fair: Avoid unnecessary migrations within SMT domains Zhang, Rui

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