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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	Hyunwoo Kim <imv4bel@gmail.com>,
	brauner@kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org,
	anna-maria@linutronix.de, ebiederm@xmission.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] signal: Use list_del_init_careful() in flush_sigqueue()
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2026 14:24:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pkz3g39u.ffs@fw13> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ao8_NUo0ACPAA4QB@redhat.com>

On Wed, Aug 26 2026 at 21:32, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> On 08/26, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 26 2026 at 11:36, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>> >
>> > So. With this change release_task()->flush_sigqueue(&old_leader->pending)
>> > can still race with posixtimer_send_sigqueue(), but it will do nothing.
>> >
>> > But it also does "nothing" if tmr->sigq is already pending (!list_empty)
>> > so I am starting to think about the change below again...
>>
>> Sure, but that's an orthogonal optimization once we fixed the exec()
>> mess :)
>
> I am almost sure I missed something again. But I thought that this "optimization"
> can also fix the exec() mess we discuss in this thread?

It does not because the sigqueue stays linked in old_leader::pending and
any concurrent or later access to it from an expiry (see Hyunwoo's
explanation) will access freed memory: either old_leader::pending or
other unrelated sigqueue entries which have been freed.

I really don't understand why you are so obsessed about "fixing" it with
a dirty hack instead of just making it comprehensible, safe and future
proof in the first place.

I'm actually tempted to move the posix timer cleanup _before_
de_thread() and just make sure that no new timers can be created anymore.

Thanks,

        tglx

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-08-27 12:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-22  5:37 Hyunwoo Kim
2026-08-22 10:27 ` Bradley Morgan
2026-08-23 12:47 ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-08-24  2:53   ` Hyunwoo Kim
2026-08-24  8:28     ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-08-24  8:04 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-24  9:45   ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-24 11:02     ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-08-24 11:54       ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-08-24 13:59         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-08-24 14:29           ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-08-25 16:58           ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-25 18:53             ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-08-25 19:58               ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-26  9:36                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-08-26 19:19                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-26 19:32                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-08-27  3:29                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2026-08-27  9:35                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-27 18:43                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2026-08-27 22:56                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-27 12:24                       ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2026-08-27 17:51                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-24 12:11       ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-24 16:31     ` Frederic Weisbecker

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