From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
Hyunwoo Kim <imv4bel@gmail.com>,
brauner@kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org,
anna-maria@linutronix.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] signal: Use list_del_init_careful() in flush_sigqueue()
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2026 00:56:49 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tsofdvf2.ffs@fw13> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mru7h09e.fsf@email.froward.int.ebiederm.org>
On Thu, Aug 27 2026 at 13:43, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org> writes:
>> The safe and obvious place is to do that is _after_ setting
>> task::sighand to NULL because that ensures that no new signal can be
>> queued and nothing can touch task::pending anymore.
>
> Not really. Using release_task (which is what is called when a zombie
> is reaped) for anything except cleaning up state that a zombie needs is
> a bit of a misfeature. Timers should not be active in a zombie.
> Signals also should be deactivated long before then.
I agree.
>
> The obvious place to clean up task::pending i.e. signals is in
> exit_signals().
>
> I expect if I read through the history again that I would find that
> exit_signals() used to call flush_sigqueue, and that during the addition
> of posix thread signal handling flush_sigqueue was moved into
> __exit_signal in release_task because knowing if the entire thread group
> is dead was not available during that part of 2.5.
>
> We should honor PF_EXITING on a task and simply stop delivering
> signals to it. Today the code goes halfway there and does not
> set sig-pending after PF_EXITING is set.
If flushing tsk::pending in exit_signals() is safe and stopping signals
to be queued when PF_EXITING is observed under sighand lock, then sure
that's the right thing to do. I'll look into that tomorrow.
> There is the goofy case that we need to be able to deliver signals
> to the entire process through a zombie thread (in particular a zombie
> thread group leader). That goofy case unfortunately means that except
> for signals to just the thread we have to deliver signals when
> PF_EXITING is set. That goofy case also unfortunately means that
> sighand_struct needs to be retained past the point where signals
> are delivered.
There's a lot of goofy stuff in this code :)
Thanks
tglx
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-08-27 22:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-22 5:37 Hyunwoo Kim
2026-08-22 10:27 ` Bradley Morgan
2026-08-23 12:47 ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-08-24 2:53 ` Hyunwoo Kim
2026-08-24 8:28 ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-08-24 8:04 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-24 9:45 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-24 11:02 ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-08-24 11:54 ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-08-24 13:59 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-08-24 14:29 ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-08-25 16:58 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-25 18:53 ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-08-25 19:58 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-26 9:36 ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-08-26 19:19 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-26 19:32 ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-08-27 3:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
2026-08-27 9:35 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-27 18:43 ` Eric W. Biederman
2026-08-27 22:56 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2026-08-27 12:24 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-27 17:51 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-24 12:11 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-24 16:31 ` Frederic Weisbecker
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