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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	Hyunwoo Kim <imv4bel@gmail.com>,
	brauner@kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org,
	anna-maria@linutronix.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] signal: Use list_del_init_careful() in flush_sigqueue()
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2026 00:56:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tsofdvf2.ffs@fw13> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mru7h09e.fsf@email.froward.int.ebiederm.org>

On Thu, Aug 27 2026 at 13:43, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org> writes:
>> The safe and obvious place is to do that is _after_ setting
>> task::sighand to NULL because that ensures that no new signal can be
>> queued and nothing can touch task::pending anymore.
>
> Not really.  Using release_task (which is what is called when a zombie
> is reaped) for anything except cleaning up state that a zombie needs is
> a bit of a misfeature.  Timers should not be active in a zombie.
> Signals also should be deactivated long before then.

I agree.

>
> The obvious place to clean up task::pending i.e. signals is in
> exit_signals().
>
> I expect if I read through the history again that I would find that
> exit_signals() used to call flush_sigqueue, and that during the addition
> of posix thread signal handling flush_sigqueue was moved into
> __exit_signal in release_task because knowing if the entire thread group
> is dead was not available during that part of 2.5.
>
> We should honor PF_EXITING on a task and simply stop delivering
> signals to it.  Today the code goes halfway there and does not
> set sig-pending after PF_EXITING is set.

If flushing tsk::pending in exit_signals() is safe and stopping signals
to be queued when PF_EXITING is observed under sighand lock, then sure
that's the right thing to do. I'll look into that tomorrow.

> There is the goofy case that we need to be able to deliver signals
> to the entire process through a zombie thread (in particular a zombie
> thread group leader).  That goofy case unfortunately means that except
> for signals to just the thread we have to deliver signals when
> PF_EXITING is set.  That goofy case also unfortunately means that
> sighand_struct needs to be retained past the point where signals
> are delivered.

There's a lot of goofy stuff in this code :)

Thanks

        tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-27 22:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-22  5:37 Hyunwoo Kim
2026-08-22 10:27 ` Bradley Morgan
2026-08-23 12:47 ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-08-24  2:53   ` Hyunwoo Kim
2026-08-24  8:28     ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-08-24  8:04 ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-24  9:45   ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-24 11:02     ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-08-24 11:54       ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-08-24 13:59         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2026-08-24 14:29           ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-08-25 16:58           ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-25 18:53             ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-08-25 19:58               ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-26  9:36                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-08-26 19:19                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-26 19:32                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2026-08-27  3:29                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2026-08-27  9:35                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-27 18:43                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2026-08-27 22:56                             ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2026-08-27 12:24                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-27 17:51                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-24 12:11       ` Thomas Gleixner
2026-08-24 16:31     ` Frederic Weisbecker

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