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From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@linux.intel.com>, Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] virtio_console: Add support for multiple ports for generic guest and host communication
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:06:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tyz1en5f.fsf@pike.pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4AB164A0.8000402@codemonkey.ws> (Anthony Liguori's message of "Wed\, 16 Sep 2009 17\:20\:16 -0500")

Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws> writes:

> Alan Cox wrote:
>>> This device is very much a serial port.  I don't see any reason not
>>> to treat it like one.
>>>     
>>
>> Here are a few
>>
>> - You don't need POSIX multi-open semantics, hangup and the like
>>   
>
> We do actually want hangup and a few other of the tty specific ops.  The 
> only thing we really don't want is a baud rate.

And a line discipline, and messing with the controlling terminal, and
group/session ID, and window size, and software flow control, ...

>> - Seek makes sense on some kinds of fixed attributes
>>   
>
> I don't think we're dealing with fixed attributes.  These are streams.  
> Fundamentally, this is a paravirtual uart.  The improvement over a 
> standard uart is that there can be a larger number of ports, ports can 
> have some identification associated with them, and we are not 
> constrained to the emulated hardware interface which doesn't exist on 
> certain platforms (like s390).
[...]

Well, really fundamentally, this is just a reliable full-duplex byte
stream, with connect and hangup notification.  To me, that sounds more
like TCP with an address family almost, but not quite AF_UNIX, but that
case was thrown out of court long ago, so here we are.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-17 13:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-11 14:13 Multiple ports support for virtio_console; major number for dev Amit Shah
2009-09-11 14:13 ` [PATCH] virtio_console: Add support for multiple ports for generic guest and host communication Amit Shah
2009-09-11 16:00   ` Alan Cox
2009-09-11 16:38     ` Amit Shah
2009-09-11 17:26       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-11 17:33         ` Amit Shah
2009-09-11 17:35           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-16 10:23             ` Alan Cox
2009-09-16 22:20               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-17 13:06                 ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2009-09-17 13:15                   ` Alan Cox
2009-09-17 13:41                     ` Amit Shah
2009-09-17 15:57                       ` Alan Cox
2009-09-17 16:46                         ` Amit Shah
2009-09-18 16:00                 ` Alan Cox
2009-09-18 17:55                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-18 17:57                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-09-18 18:02                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-19  7:04                       ` Amit Shah
2009-09-18 20:11                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-09-19  7:01                     ` Amit Shah
2009-09-21 10:06                     ` Alan Cox
2009-09-15 12:37     ` Amit Shah
2009-09-15 12:57       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-15 13:03         ` Amit Shah
2009-09-15 13:37           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-15 14:08         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-09-15 14:09           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-22  2:44     ` Rusty Russell
2009-09-22 15:45       ` Amit Shah
2009-09-29  9:24         ` Amit Shah
2009-09-29 10:09           ` Christian Borntraeger
2009-09-29 10:33             ` Amit Shah
2009-09-29 11:02               ` Christian Borntraeger
2009-09-29 11:40                 ` Christian Borntraeger
2009-09-29 12:03           ` Christian Borntraeger
2009-09-29 12:20             ` Amit Shah
2009-09-29 12:56               ` Christian Borntraeger
2009-09-29 13:09                 ` Amit Shah
2009-09-29 13:31                   ` Christian Borntraeger
2009-09-30 17:13                     ` Amit Shah
2009-10-01  8:17                       ` Christian Borntraeger
2009-10-01  8:47                         ` Amit Shah
2009-10-01  8:55                           ` Christian Borntraeger
2009-10-01  9:00                       ` Christian Borntraeger
2009-10-01 10:04                         ` Amit Shah
2009-10-01 10:28                       ` Christian Borntraeger
2009-10-01 10:42                         ` Amit Shah
2009-10-01 11:58                         ` Amit Shah
2009-10-01 12:04                           ` Christian Borntraeger
2009-10-01 13:50                             ` Amit Shah
2009-10-05 14:05                         ` Amit Shah
2009-10-06  6:49                           ` Christian Borntraeger
2009-10-06  6:55                             ` Amit Shah
2009-09-29 13:11   ` Rusty Russell
2009-09-29 13:24     ` Amit Shah

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