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From: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	"Gautham R. Shenoy" <gautham.shenoy@amd.com>,
	Swapnil Sapkal <swapnil.sapkal@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 5/5] sched/fair: Proactive idle balance using push mechanism
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2025 21:07:44 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <96d7c406-95dc-43a2-9daf-819b78979c75@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250410102945.GD30687@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On 4/10/2025 3:59 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:

[..snip..]

>>   /*
>>    * See if the non running fair tasks on this rq can be sent on other CPUs
>>    * that fits better with their profile.
>>    */
>>   static bool push_fair_task(struct rq *rq)
>>   {
>> +	struct cpumask *cpus = this_cpu_cpumask_var_ptr(load_balance_mask);
>> +	struct task_struct *p = pick_next_pushable_fair_task(rq);
>> +	int cpu, this_cpu = cpu_of(rq);
>> +
>> +	if (!p)
>> +		return false;
>> +
>> +	if (!cpumask_and(cpus, nohz.idle_cpus_mask, housekeeping_cpumask(HK_TYPE_KERNEL_NOISE)))
>> +		goto requeue;
> 
> So I think the main goal here should be to get rid of the whole single
> nohz balancing thing.
> 
> This global state/mask has been shown to be a problem over and over again.
> 
> Ideally we keep a nohz idle mask per LLC (right next to the overload
> mask you introduced earlier), along with a bit in the sched_domain tree
> upwards of that to indicate a particular llc/ node / distance-group has
> nohz idle.
> 
> Then if the topmost domain has the bit set it means there are nohz cpus
> to be found, and we can (slowly) iterate the domain tree up from
> overloaded LLC to push tasks around.

I'll to through fair.c to understand all the usecases of
"nohz.idle_cpus_mask" and then start with this bit for v2 to see if that
blows up in some way. I'll be back shortly.

> 
> Anyway, yes, you gotta start somewhere :-)

Thanks a ton for the initial review. I'll go analyze more to see what
bits are making benchmarks go sad.

-- 
Thanks and Regards,
Prateek


  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-10 15:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-09 11:15 [RFC PATCH 0/5] K Prateek Nayak
2025-04-09 11:15 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] sched/fair: Add push task framework K Prateek Nayak
2025-04-10 10:00   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-10 15:25     ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-04-09 11:15 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] sched/fair: Introduce overloaded_mask in sched_domain_shared K Prateek Nayak
2025-04-10 10:03   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-10 15:26     ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-04-09 11:15 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] sched/fair: Update overloaded mask in presence of pushable task K Prateek Nayak
2025-04-14  2:28   ` Aaron Lu
2025-04-14  3:13     ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-04-21  5:20   ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-04-21  5:54     ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-04-21  8:03       ` Shrikanth Hegde
2025-04-21  8:54         ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-04-09 11:15 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] sched/fair: Rework inter-NUMA newidle balancing K Prateek Nayak
2025-04-10 10:14   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-10 15:27     ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-04-09 11:15 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] sched/fair: Proactive idle balance using push mechanism K Prateek Nayak
2025-04-10 10:29   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-10 15:37     ` K Prateek Nayak [this message]
2025-04-09 11:17 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] sched/fair: Idle and newidle balancing " K Prateek Nayak

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