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From: Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>
To: mingo@kernel.org
Cc: ardb@kernel.org, arnd@arndb.de, bp@alien8.de, dwmw@amazon.co.uk,
	hpa@zytor.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	michal.lkml@markovi.net, peterz@infradead.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	vkuznets@redhat.com, yamada.masahiro@socionext.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 13/15] x86/kconfig/64: Enable popular scheduler, cgroups and namespaces options in the defconfig
Date: Wed, 7 May 2025 11:00:38 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9b31f1df-7dc6-468b-9418-0b13239df8bc@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250506170924.3513161-14-mingo@kernel.org>

Hello Mingo,

 > +CONFIG_VIRT_CPU_ACCOUNTING_GEN=y
 > +CONFIG_IRQ_TIME_ACCOUNTING=y

Enabling CONFIG_IRQ_TIME_ACCOUNTING=y can lead to user-visible 
behavioral changes. For more context, please refer to the related 
discussion here: 
https://lore.kernel.org/all/20241222024734.63894-1-laoar.shao@gmail.com/ .

If we decide to enable it by default, we should clearly document this 
behavior change. Below is the patch I wrote earlier but haven’t sent out 
for review yet.

----

Subject: [PATCH] init/Kconfig: document behavior change when enabling
  IRQ_TIME_ACCOUNTING

After we enabled CONFIG_IRQ_TIME_ACCOUNTING, we noticed that the IRQ
usage is not accounted to the tasks and thus not accounted to the CPU
cgroup neither. This behavior change results in issues [0] in our
production servers and finally we have to revert it.

We'd better clearly document this behavior change in case it might
matter to the user.

Link: 
https://lore.kernel.org/all/20241222024734.63894-1-laoar.shao@gmail.com/ [0]
Suggested-by: "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>
Signed-off-by: Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
---
  init/Kconfig | 8 ++++++++
  1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)

diff --git a/init/Kconfig b/init/Kconfig
index a20e6efd3f0f..191df0b5cf1c 100644
--- a/init/Kconfig
+++ b/init/Kconfig
@@ -563,6 +563,14 @@ config IRQ_TIME_ACCOUNTING
        transitions between softirq and hardirq state, so there can be a
        small performance impact.

+      Enabling IRQ_TIME_ACCOUNTING excludes IRQ usage from the CPU usage
+      statistics of individual tasks and, consequently, it is not accounted
+      for in CPU cgroups. As a result, a task's CPU usage will accurately
+      reflect only its user time and system time. IRQ usage is instead
+      attributed at the global level and can be observed in metrics such as
+      /proc/stat or, potentially, at the cgroup level in files like
+      irq.pressure.
+
        If in doubt, say N here.

  config HAVE_SCHED_AVG_IRQ

  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-07  3:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-06 17:09 [PATCH -v2 00/15] x86/kconfig: Enable various kernel features in the defconfig, add the 'x86_32' subarchitecture build target and misc cleanups Ingo Molnar
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 01/15] x86/kconfig/64: Refresh defconfig Ingo Molnar
2025-05-07  5:31   ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-05-07  6:22     ` Ingo Molnar
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 02/15] x86/kconfig/32: " Ingo Molnar
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 03/15] x86/kconfig: Rename x86_64_defconfig to defconfig.x86_64 and i386_defconfig to defconfig.i386 Ingo Molnar
2025-05-09 18:10   ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-05-15 13:16     ` Ingo Molnar
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 04/15] x86/kbuild: Introduce the 'x86_32' subarchitecture Ingo Molnar
2025-05-07  5:44   ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-05-07  6:35     ` Ingo Molnar
2025-05-09 12:04       ` David Laight
2025-05-09 18:00         ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-05-09 18:05       ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 05/15] x86/kbuild: Remove ancient 'arch/i386/' and 'arch/x86_64/' directory removal 'archclean' target Ingo Molnar
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 06/15] x86/tools: insn_decoder_test.c: Emit standard build success messages Ingo Molnar
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 07/15] x86/tools: insn_sanity.c: " Ingo Molnar
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 08/15] x86/kconfig/64: Enable the KVM host in the defconfig Ingo Molnar
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 09/15] x86/kconfig/64: Enable more virtualization guest options in the defconfig: enable Xen, Xen_PVH, Jailhouse, ACRN, Intel TDX and Hyper-V Ingo Molnar
2025-05-08  9:21   ` Jürgen Groß
2025-05-15 13:19     ` Ingo Molnar
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 10/15] x86/kconfig/64: Enable BPF support in the defconfig Ingo Molnar
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 11/15] x86/kconfig/64: Enable popular MM options " Ingo Molnar
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 12/15] x86/kconfig/64: Enable popular kernel debugging " Ingo Molnar
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 13/15] x86/kconfig/64: Enable popular scheduler, cgroups and namespaces " Ingo Molnar
2025-05-07  3:00   ` Yafang Shao [this message]
2025-05-07  7:06     ` Ingo Molnar
2025-05-07 11:42       ` Yafang Shao
2025-05-07 16:22         ` Ingo Molnar
2025-05-08  5:56           ` Yafang Shao
2025-05-22  5:49           ` Yafang Shao
2025-05-07  5:11   ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-05-07 16:09     ` Ingo Molnar
2025-05-28 17:22   ` Michal Koutný
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 14/15] x86/kconfig/64: Enable popular generic kernel " Ingo Molnar
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 15/15] x86/kconfig/32: Synchronize the x86-32 defconfig to the x86-64 defconfig Ingo Molnar
2025-05-07  5:27   ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-05-07 17:41     ` Ingo Molnar
2025-05-07 17:55       ` Arnd Bergmann
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2025-05-05 11:09 [PATCH 00/15] x86/kconfig: Enable various kernel features in the defconfig, add the 'x86_32' subarchitecture build target and misc cleanups Ingo Molnar
2025-05-05 11:09 ` [PATCH 13/15] x86/kconfig/64: Enable popular scheduler, cgroups and namespaces options in the defconfig Ingo Molnar

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