mirror of https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw@amazon.co.uk>,
	Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@socionext.com>,
	Michal Marek <michal.lkml@markovi.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 15/15] x86/kconfig/32: Synchronize the x86-32 defconfig to the x86-64 defconfig
Date: Wed, 7 May 2025 19:41:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aBubMpHlXQZYeevi@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <667849c3-e522-4fbb-9d45-fbe28f7e6da7@app.fastmail.com>


* Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:

> On Tue, May 6, 2025, at 19:09, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> > Just a mechanic synchronization of kernel options enabled: nobody 
> > really develops kernel features on x86-32 anymore, so make sure the 
> > defconfig is roughly equivalent to the 64-bit one, so that testing 
> > doesn't cover some combination that nobody cares about.
> 
> What is the size increase here?
>
> Some of the options you enable look like they might add a lot of code 
> to the vmlinux binary, and 32-bit are often might more limited than 
> 64-bit ones.

16.5MB -> 20.8MB, so well within usual RAM limits of x86-32 testing.

As a comparison, the last x86-32 Debian version's kernel, based on 
v6.1, has a vmlinux with 12.2MB .text and 4.2MB of modules loaded when 
booted into text mode, so 16.4MB total. This goes up substantially if 
any graphics is loaded.

> IOW, is your goal here to keep something that works on actual 32-bit 
> machines, or do you want something that will in practice run on 
> 64-bit machines and have a comparable feature set?

This will work on the vast majority of actual 32-bit machines in the 
i686 class and above, but the primary users are kernel developers doing 
test-runs on x86-64. For those who have less than 1GB of RAM, there's 
always tiny-base.config.

> > @@ -50,7 +76,11 @@ CONFIG_ACPI_BGRT=y
> >  CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_USERSPACE=y
> >  CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_ONDEMAND=y
> >  CONFIG_X86_ACPI_CPUFREQ=y
> > -CONFIG_KPROBES=y
> > +CONFIG_KVM=y
> > +CONFIG_KVM_INTEL=y
> > +CONFIG_KVM_AMD=y
> > +CONFIG_KVM_XEN=y
> > +CONFIG_KVM_MAX_NR_VCPUS=4096
> >  CONFIG_JUMP_LABEL=y
> >  CONFIG_COMPAT_32BIT_TIME=y
> >  CONFIG_MODULES=y
> 
> I have a series to completely remove KVM support for 32-bit. There is 
> one powerpc platform that may keep it, but there is really no point 
> in enabling it here when there are practically zero 32-bit machines 
> that can use it.

That's OK, it will go away once it's removed.

This is an intentionally mechanical mirroring of the 64-bit Kconfig 
over to 32-bit, we've done this in the past as well.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-07 17:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-06 17:09 [PATCH -v2 00/15] x86/kconfig: Enable various kernel features in the defconfig, add the 'x86_32' subarchitecture build target and misc cleanups Ingo Molnar
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 01/15] x86/kconfig/64: Refresh defconfig Ingo Molnar
2025-05-07  5:31   ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-05-07  6:22     ` Ingo Molnar
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 02/15] x86/kconfig/32: " Ingo Molnar
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 03/15] x86/kconfig: Rename x86_64_defconfig to defconfig.x86_64 and i386_defconfig to defconfig.i386 Ingo Molnar
2025-05-09 18:10   ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-05-15 13:16     ` Ingo Molnar
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 04/15] x86/kbuild: Introduce the 'x86_32' subarchitecture Ingo Molnar
2025-05-07  5:44   ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-05-07  6:35     ` Ingo Molnar
2025-05-09 12:04       ` David Laight
2025-05-09 18:00         ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-05-09 18:05       ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 05/15] x86/kbuild: Remove ancient 'arch/i386/' and 'arch/x86_64/' directory removal 'archclean' target Ingo Molnar
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 06/15] x86/tools: insn_decoder_test.c: Emit standard build success messages Ingo Molnar
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 07/15] x86/tools: insn_sanity.c: " Ingo Molnar
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 08/15] x86/kconfig/64: Enable the KVM host in the defconfig Ingo Molnar
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 09/15] x86/kconfig/64: Enable more virtualization guest options in the defconfig: enable Xen, Xen_PVH, Jailhouse, ACRN, Intel TDX and Hyper-V Ingo Molnar
2025-05-08  9:21   ` Jürgen Groß
2025-05-15 13:19     ` Ingo Molnar
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 10/15] x86/kconfig/64: Enable BPF support in the defconfig Ingo Molnar
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 11/15] x86/kconfig/64: Enable popular MM options " Ingo Molnar
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 12/15] x86/kconfig/64: Enable popular kernel debugging " Ingo Molnar
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 13/15] x86/kconfig/64: Enable popular scheduler, cgroups and namespaces " Ingo Molnar
2025-05-07  3:00   ` Yafang Shao
2025-05-07  7:06     ` Ingo Molnar
2025-05-07 11:42       ` Yafang Shao
2025-05-07 16:22         ` Ingo Molnar
2025-05-08  5:56           ` Yafang Shao
2025-05-22  5:49           ` Yafang Shao
2025-05-07  5:11   ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-05-07 16:09     ` Ingo Molnar
2025-05-28 17:22   ` Michal Koutný
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 14/15] x86/kconfig/64: Enable popular generic kernel " Ingo Molnar
2025-05-06 17:09 ` [PATCH 15/15] x86/kconfig/32: Synchronize the x86-32 defconfig to the x86-64 defconfig Ingo Molnar
2025-05-07  5:27   ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-05-07 17:41     ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2025-05-07 17:55       ` Arnd Bergmann
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2025-05-05 11:09 [PATCH 00/15] x86/kconfig: Enable various kernel features in the defconfig, add the 'x86_32' subarchitecture build target and misc cleanups Ingo Molnar
2025-05-05 11:09 ` [PATCH 15/15] x86/kconfig/32: Synchronize the x86-32 defconfig to the x86-64 defconfig Ingo Molnar

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=aBubMpHlXQZYeevi@gmail.com \
    --to=mingo@kernel.org \
    --cc=ardb@kernel.org \
    --cc=arnd@arndb.de \
    --cc=bp@alien8.de \
    --cc=dwmw@amazon.co.uk \
    --cc=hpa@zytor.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=michal.lkml@markovi.net \
    --cc=peterz@infradead.org \
    --cc=tglx@linutronix.de \
    --cc=torvalds@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=vkuznets@redhat.com \
    --cc=yamada.masahiro@socionext.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox

Powered by JetHome