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From: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Qais Yousef <qyousef@layalina.io>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@arm.com>,
	Wei Wang <wvw@google.com>, Xuewen Yan <xuewen.yan94@gmail.com>,
	Hank <han.lin@mediatek.com>,
	Jonathan JMChen <Jonathan.JMChen@mediatek.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] sched/uclamp: Set max_spare_cap_cpu even if max_spare_cap is 0
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2023 19:02:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9e935645-9baf-af9f-73bd-3eaeaec044a8@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKfTPtA9yOncmGuLfo-XaXDZ5F7+9iL-hdyGeaOQi1qrDa_RqQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 07/02/2023 10:45, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> On Sun, 5 Feb 2023 at 23:43, Qais Yousef <qyousef@layalina.io> wrote:
>>
>> When uclamp_max is being used, the util of the task could be higher than
>> the spare capacity of the CPU, but due to uclamp_max value we force fit
>> it there.
>>
>> The way the condition for checking for max_spare_cap in
>> find_energy_efficient_cpu() was constructed; it ignored any CPU that has
>> its spare_cap less than or _equal_ to max_spare_cap. Since we initialize
>> max_spare_cap to 0; this lead to never setting max_spare_cap_cpu and
>> hence ending up never performing compute_energy() for this cluster and
>> missing an opportunity for a better energy efficient placement to honour
>> uclamp_max setting.
>>
>>         max_spare_cap = 0;
>>         cpu_cap = capacity_of(cpu) - task_util(p);  // 0 if task_util(p) is high
>>
>>         ...
>>
>>         util_fits_cpu(...);             // will return true if uclamp_max forces it to fit

s/true/1/ ?

>>
>>         ...
>>
>>         // this logic will fail to update max_spare_cap_cpu if cpu_cap is 0
>>         if (cpu_cap > max_spare_cap) {
>>                 max_spare_cap = cpu_cap;
>>                 max_spare_cap_cpu = cpu;
>>         }
>>
>> prev_spare_cap suffers from a similar problem.
>>
>> Fix the logic by converting the variables into long and treating -1
>> value as 'not populated' instead of 0 which is a viable and correct
>> spare capacity value.

The issue I see here is in case we don't have any spare capacity left,
the energy calculation (in terms CPU utilization) isn't correct anymore.

Due to `effective_cpu_util()` returning `max=arch_scale_cpu_capacity()`
you never know how big the `busy_time` for the PD really is in this moment.

eenv_pd_busy_time()

  for_each_cpu(cpu, pd_cpus)
    busy_time += effective_cpu_util(..., ENERGY_UTIL, ...)
    ^^^^^^^^^

with:

  sum_util = min(busy_time + task_busy_time, pd_cap)
                 ^^^^^^^^^

  freq = (1.25 * max_util / max) * max_freq

  energy = (perf_state(freq)->cost / max) * sum_util


energy is not related to CPU utilization anymore (since there is no idle
time/spare capacity) left.

So EAS keeps packing on the cheaper PD/clamped OPP.

E.g. Juno-r0 [446 1024 1024 446 446 446] with 6 8ms/16ms uclamp_max=440
tasks all running on little PD, cpumask=0x39. The big PD is idle but
never beats prev_cpu in terms of energy consumption for the wakee.

[...]

  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-09 18:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-05 22:43 [PATCH v2 0/3] Fix a couple of corner cases in feec() when using uclamp_max Qais Yousef
2023-02-05 22:43 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] sched/uclamp: Set max_spare_cap_cpu even if max_spare_cap is 0 Qais Yousef
2023-02-07  9:45   ` Vincent Guittot
2023-02-09 18:02     ` Dietmar Eggemann [this message]
2023-02-11 17:50       ` Qais Yousef
2023-02-14 12:47         ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-02-14 18:09           ` Qais Yousef
2023-02-21 12:20             ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-02-23 15:12               ` Qais Yousef
2023-05-22  8:30         ` Lukasz Luba
     [not found]           ` <20230531182243.r4d5teuijiadwp2c@airbuntu>
2023-06-05 11:29             ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-06-30 11:30               ` Qais Yousef
2023-06-05 13:07             ` Lukasz Luba
2023-06-07 14:52         ` Hongyan Xia
2023-06-30 11:41           ` Qais Yousef
2023-02-11 17:28     ` Qais Yousef
2023-02-20 17:02       ` Vincent Guittot
2023-02-21 12:05         ` Qais Yousef
2023-02-22 10:59           ` Vincent Guittot
2023-02-23 15:13             ` Qais Yousef
2023-06-07 11:50       ` Hongyan Xia
2023-06-30 11:44         ` Qais Yousef
2023-07-17 21:49         ` Qais Yousef
2023-02-05 22:43 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] sched/uclamp: Ignore (util == 0) optimization in feec() when p_util_max = 0 Qais Yousef
2023-02-07 10:04   ` Vincent Guittot
2023-02-08 11:52     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-02-11 18:01       ` Qais Yousef
2023-02-14 12:47         ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-02-14 18:10           ` Qais Yousef
2023-02-20 17:24           ` Vincent Guittot
2023-02-05 22:43 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] sched/tp: Add new tracepoint to track compute energy computation Qais Yousef
2023-02-20 11:22   ` Lukasz Luba
2023-02-21 12:08     ` Qais Yousef
2023-02-21 12:10       ` Lukasz Luba

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