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From: Hongyan Xia <hongyan.xia2@arm.com>
To: Qais Yousef <qyousef@layalina.io>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
Cc: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@arm.com>,
	Wei Wang <wvw@google.com>, Xuewen Yan <xuewen.yan94@gmail.com>,
	Hank <han.lin@mediatek.com>,
	Jonathan JMChen <Jonathan.JMChen@mediatek.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] sched/uclamp: Set max_spare_cap_cpu even if max_spare_cap is 0
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2023 15:52:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c5722699-d366-3f26-635d-a45f746a3658@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230211175052.b7a4hddhkjk4j6qf@airbuntu>

Hi Qais,

On 2023-02-11 17:50, Qais Yousef wrote:
> [...]
>>
>> So EAS keeps packing on the cheaper PD/clamped OPP.
> 
> Which is the desired behavior for uclamp_max?
> 
> The only issue I see is that we want to distribute within a pd. Which is
> something I was going to work on and send after later - but can lump it in this
> series if it helps.

I more or less share the same concern with Dietmar, which is packing 
things on the same small CPU when everyone has spare cpu_cap of 0.

I wonder if this could be useful: On the side of cfs_rq->avg.util_avg, 
we have a cfs_rq->avg.util_avg_uclamp_max. It is keeping track of 
util_avg, but each task on the rq is capped at its uclamp_max value, so 
even if there's two always-running tasks with uclamp_max values of 100 
with no idle time, the cfs_rq only sees cpu_util() of 200 and still has 
remaining capacity of 1024 - 200, not 0. This also helps balancing the 
load when rqs have no idle time. Even if two CPUs both have no idle 
time, but one is running a single task clamped at 100, the other running 
2 such tasks, the first sees a remaining capacity of 1024 - 100, while 
the 2nd is 1024 - 200, so we still prefer the first one.

And I wonder if this could also help calculating energy when there's no 
idle time under uclamp_max. Instead of seeing a util_avg at 1024, we 
actually see a lower value. This is also what cpu_util_next() does in 
Android's sum aggregation, but I'm thinking of maintaining it right 
beside util_avg so that we don't have to sum up everything every time.

Hongyan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-06-07 14:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-05 22:43 [PATCH v2 0/3] Fix a couple of corner cases in feec() when using uclamp_max Qais Yousef
2023-02-05 22:43 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] sched/uclamp: Set max_spare_cap_cpu even if max_spare_cap is 0 Qais Yousef
2023-02-07  9:45   ` Vincent Guittot
2023-02-09 18:02     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-02-11 17:50       ` Qais Yousef
2023-02-14 12:47         ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-02-14 18:09           ` Qais Yousef
2023-02-21 12:20             ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-02-23 15:12               ` Qais Yousef
2023-05-22  8:30         ` Lukasz Luba
     [not found]           ` <20230531182243.r4d5teuijiadwp2c@airbuntu>
2023-06-05 11:29             ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-06-30 11:30               ` Qais Yousef
2023-06-05 13:07             ` Lukasz Luba
2023-06-07 14:52         ` Hongyan Xia [this message]
2023-06-30 11:41           ` Qais Yousef
2023-02-11 17:28     ` Qais Yousef
2023-02-20 17:02       ` Vincent Guittot
2023-02-21 12:05         ` Qais Yousef
2023-02-22 10:59           ` Vincent Guittot
2023-02-23 15:13             ` Qais Yousef
2023-06-07 11:50       ` Hongyan Xia
2023-06-30 11:44         ` Qais Yousef
2023-07-17 21:49         ` Qais Yousef
2023-02-05 22:43 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] sched/uclamp: Ignore (util == 0) optimization in feec() when p_util_max = 0 Qais Yousef
2023-02-07 10:04   ` Vincent Guittot
2023-02-08 11:52     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-02-11 18:01       ` Qais Yousef
2023-02-14 12:47         ` Dietmar Eggemann
2023-02-14 18:10           ` Qais Yousef
2023-02-20 17:24           ` Vincent Guittot
2023-02-05 22:43 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] sched/tp: Add new tracepoint to track compute energy computation Qais Yousef
2023-02-20 11:22   ` Lukasz Luba
2023-02-21 12:08     ` Qais Yousef
2023-02-21 12:10       ` Lukasz Luba

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