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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "linux-block@vger.kernel.org" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Block pull request for- 4.11-rc1
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 11:58:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9f6e0c1e-fe62-9898-d074-edc05310cebe@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFx+FUWAY9zDyULbsy-Xqf9YhK3kOBskurMPSainYbSQcw@mail.gmail.com>

On 02/22/2017 11:56 AM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 10:52 AM, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk> wrote:
>>>
>>> It's that simple.
>>
>> No, it's not that simple at all. Fact is, some optimizations make sense
>> for some workloads, and some do not.
> 
> Are you even listening?
> 
> I'm saying no user can ever give a sane answer to your question. The
> question is insane and wrong.
> 
> I already said you can have a dynamic configuration (and maybe even an
> automatic heuristic - like saying that a ramdisk gets NOOP by default,
> real hardware does not).
> 
> But asking a user at kernel config time for a default is insane. If
> *you* cannot answer it, then the user sure as hell cannot.
> 
> Other configuration questions have problems too, but at least the
> question about "should I support ext4" is something a user (or distro)
> can sanely answer. So your comparisons are pure bullshit.

As per the previous email, this was my proposed solution:

OK, so here's what I'll do:

1) We'll kill the default scheduler choices. sq blk-mq will default to
   mq-deadline, mq blk-mq will default to "none" (at least for now, until
   the new scheduler is done).
2) The individual schedulers will be y/m/n selectable, just like any
   other driver.

Any further settings on that can be done at runtime, through sysfs.

-- 
Jens Axboe

  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-22 18:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-20  0:10 Jens Axboe
2017-02-20  1:09 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-02-20  1:15   ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-20  2:12     ` James Bottomley
2017-02-20  2:59       ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-20  3:02         ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-20  7:35     ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-02-20 16:16       ` Bart Van Assche
2017-02-20 16:32         ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-21  1:18           ` Bart Van Assche
2017-02-24 17:39           ` Bart Van Assche
2017-02-24 17:51             ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-24 19:43             ` Linus Torvalds
2017-02-24 20:00               ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-24 20:22                 ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-24 21:15                   ` Bart Van Assche
2017-02-25 18:17                   ` hch
2017-02-25 18:22                     ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-21 19:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-02-21 19:34   ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-21 23:02   ` Linus Torvalds
2017-02-21 23:15     ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-21 23:23       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-02-22 18:14         ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-22 18:26           ` Linus Torvalds
2017-02-22 18:41             ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-22 18:45               ` Linus Torvalds
2017-02-22 18:52                 ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-22 18:56                   ` Linus Torvalds
2017-02-22 18:58                     ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2017-02-22 19:04                       ` Linus Torvalds
2017-02-22 21:29                         ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-22 18:42             ` Linus Torvalds
2017-02-22 18:44               ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-22 21:50                 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2017-02-22 21:55                   ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-23  0:16                   ` Linus Torvalds

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