From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "linux-block@vger.kernel.org" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Block pull request for- 4.11-rc1
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 11:44:41 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c1d07f31-40e7-0fb0-7251-24067564a0ad@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFwXmBsHBPJJLzxnY0H4ib-iro__TdYA6=rpUnoh+BbyGA@mail.gmail.com>
On 02/22/2017 11:42 AM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Linus Torvalds
> <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>>
>> And dammit, IF YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW, WHY THE HELL ARE YOU ASKING THE POOR USER?
>
> Basically, I'm pushing back on config options that I can't personally
> even sanely answer.
I got that much, and I don't disagree on that part.
> If it's a config option about "do I have a particular piece of
> hardware", it makes sense. But these new ones were just complete
> garbage.
>
> The whole "default IO scheduler" thing is a disease. We should stop
> making up these shit schedulers and then say "we don't know which one
> works best for you".
>
> All it does is encourage developers to make shortcuts and create crap
> that isn't generically useful, and then blame the user and say "well,
> you should have picked a different scheduler" when they say "this does
> not work well for me".
>
> We have had too many of those kinds of broken choices. And when the
> new Kconfig options get so confusing and so esoteric that I go "Hmm, I
> have no idea if my hardware does a single queue or not", I put my foot
> down.
>
> When the IO scheduler questions were about a generic IO scheduler for
> everything, I can kind of understand them. I think it was still a
> mistake (for the reasons outline above), but at least it was a
> comprehensible question to ask.
>
> But when it gets to "what should I do about a single-queue version of
> a MQ scheduler", the question is no longer even remotely sensible. The
> question should simply NOT EXIST. There is no possible valid reason to
> ask that kind of crap.
OK, so here's what I'll do:
1) We'll kill the default scheduler choices. sq blk-mq will default to
mq-deadline, mq blk-mq will default to "none" (at least for now, until
the new scheduler is done).
2) The individual schedulers will be y/m/n selectable, just like any
other driver.
I hope that works for everyone.
--
Jens Axboe
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-02-22 18:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-02-20 0:10 Jens Axboe
2017-02-20 1:09 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-02-20 1:15 ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-20 2:12 ` James Bottomley
2017-02-20 2:59 ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-20 3:02 ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-20 7:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-02-20 16:16 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-02-20 16:32 ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-21 1:18 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-02-24 17:39 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-02-24 17:51 ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-24 19:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-02-24 20:00 ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-24 20:22 ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-24 21:15 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-02-25 18:17 ` hch
2017-02-25 18:22 ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-21 19:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-02-21 19:34 ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-21 23:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-02-21 23:15 ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-21 23:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-02-22 18:14 ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-22 18:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-02-22 18:41 ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-22 18:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-02-22 18:52 ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-22 18:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-02-22 18:58 ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-22 19:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-02-22 21:29 ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-22 18:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-02-22 18:44 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2017-02-22 21:50 ` Markus Trippelsdorf
2017-02-22 21:55 ` Jens Axboe
2017-02-23 0:16 ` Linus Torvalds
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