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From: Shinas Rasheed <srasheed@marvell.com>
To: Larysa Zaremba <larysa.zaremba@intel.com>
Cc: "netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Haseeb Gani <hgani@marvell.com>,
	Sathesh B Edara <sedara@marvell.com>,
	Vimlesh Kumar <vimleshk@marvell.com>,
	"thaller@redhat.com" <thaller@redhat.com>,
	"wizhao@redhat.com" <wizhao@redhat.com>,
	"kheib@redhat.com" <kheib@redhat.com>,
	"konguyen@redhat.com" <konguyen@redhat.com>,
	"horms@kernel.org" <horms@kernel.org>,
	"einstein.xue@synaxg.com" <einstein.xue@synaxg.com>,
	Veerasenareddy Burru <vburru@marvell.com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Abhijit Ayarekar <aayarekar@marvell.com>,
	Satananda Burla <sburla@marvell.com>
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: [PATCH net v2 1/4] octeon_ep: fix race conditions in ndo_get_stats64
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2024 13:58:14 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BY3PR18MB4721AF7DFD7F5F0384C37B84C7052@BY3PR18MB4721.namprd18.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z2LNOLxy0H1JoTnd@lzaremba-mobl.ger.corp.intel.com>

Hi Larysa,

> > > > > On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 03:30:12PM +0100, Larysa Zaremba wrote:
> > > > > > On Sun, Dec 15, 2024 at 11:58:39PM -0800, Shinas Rasheed wrote:
> > > > > > > ndo_get_stats64() can race with ndo_stop(), which frees input and
> > > > > > > output queue resources. Call synchronize_net() to avoid such
> races.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Fixes: 6a610a46bad1 ("octeon_ep: add support for ndo ops")
> > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Shinas Rasheed <srasheed@marvell.com>
> > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > V2:
> > > > > > >   - Changed sync mechanism to fix race conditions from using an
> > > atomic
> > > > > > >     set_bit ops to a much simpler synchronize_net()
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >  drivers/net/ethernet/marvell/octeon_ep/octep_main.c | 1 +
> > > > > > >  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > diff --git a/drivers/net/ethernet/marvell/octeon_ep/octep_main.c
> > > > > b/drivers/net/ethernet/marvell/octeon_ep/octep_main.c
> > > > > > > index 549436efc204..941bbaaa67b5 100644
> > > > > > > --- a/drivers/net/ethernet/marvell/octeon_ep/octep_main.c
> > > > > > > +++ b/drivers/net/ethernet/marvell/octeon_ep/octep_main.c
> > > > > > > @@ -757,6 +757,7 @@ static int octep_stop(struct net_device
> > > *netdev)
> > > > > > >  {
> > > > > > >  	struct octep_device *oct = netdev_priv(netdev);
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > +	synchronize_net();
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You should have elaborated on the fact that this synchronize_net() is
> for
> > > > > > __LINK_STATE_START flag in the commit message, this is not obvious.
> > > Also,
> > > > > is
> > > > > > octep_get_stats64() called from RCU-safe context?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Now I see that in case !netif_running(), you do not bail out of
> > > > > octep_get_stats64() fully (or at all after the second patch). So, could
> you
> > > > > explain, how are you utilizing RCU here?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > The understanding is that octep_get_stats64() (.ndo_get_stats64() in
> turn) is
> > > called from RCU safe contexts, and
> > > > that the netdev op is never called after the ndo_stop().
> > >
> > > As I now see, in net/core/net-sysfs.c, yes there is an rcu read lock around
> the
> > > thing, but there are a lot more callers and for example veth_get_stats64()
> > > explicitly calls rcu_read_lock().
> > >
> > > Also, even with RCU-protected section, I am not sure prevents the
> > > octep_get_stats64() to be called after synchronize_net() finishes. Again,
> the
> > > callers seem too diverse to definitely say that we can rely on built-in flags
> > > for this to not happen :/
> >
> > Usually, the understanding is that ndo_get_stats won't be called by the
> network stack after the interface is put down. As long as that is the case, I
> don't think we should keep adding checks until there is a strong reason to do
> so. What do you think?
> >
> 
> It is hard to know without testing (but testing should not be hard). I think the
> phrase "Statistics must persist across routine operations like bringing the
> interface down and up." [0] implies that bringing the interface down may not
> necessarily prevent stats calls.
> 
> [0] https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-
> 3A__docs.kernel.org_networking_statistics.html&d=DwIBAg&c=nKjWec2b6R0
> mOyPaz7xtfQ&r=1OxLD4y-oxrlgQ1rjXgWtmLz1pnaDjD96sDq-
> cKUwK4&m=DJzJNo9WT10pSHikJhCBbN7-CfB-
> O2kz9OVGsmiIRQXvcIIWDK6034tMmzZGvlFs&s=essE01suLWF42taNi0yJ3H3YC
> 0Et8GofMj5wxor9yD4&e=
>

Sorry, I misworded my previous statement. Of course ndo_get_stats can get called while the netdev is down. This is tested code, and the reason why there is no issue in this scenario is because for a ndo_get_stats call that happens after ndo_stop() happens, the oct->num_oqs will be seen as 0, and hence octep_iq nor octep_oq is not accessed in the for loop that follows. Octep_iq and octep_oq are the resources that we're trying to protect from race conditions. Hope that clarifies things.


> > > > Thanks for the comments

  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-18 13:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-16  7:58 [PATCH net v2 0/4] Fix " Shinas Rasheed
2024-12-16  7:58 ` [PATCH net v2 1/4] octeon_ep: fix " Shinas Rasheed
2024-12-16 14:30   ` Larysa Zaremba
2024-12-16 14:46     ` Larysa Zaremba
2024-12-16 18:28       ` [EXTERNAL] " Shinas Rasheed
2024-12-17 17:06         ` Larysa Zaremba
2024-12-17 17:49           ` Shinas Rasheed
2024-12-18 13:25             ` Larysa Zaremba
2024-12-18 13:58               ` Shinas Rasheed [this message]
2024-12-18 14:21               ` Eric Dumazet
2024-12-18 14:49                 ` Larysa Zaremba
2024-12-18 15:03                   ` Eric Dumazet
2024-12-18 15:25                     ` Shinas Rasheed
2024-12-18 15:39                       ` Eric Dumazet
2024-12-19 16:28                         ` Shinas Rasheed
2024-12-19 16:35                           ` Eric Dumazet
2024-12-16 18:24     ` Shinas Rasheed
2024-12-16  7:58 ` [PATCH net v2 2/4] octeon_ep: remove firmware stats fetch " Shinas Rasheed
2024-12-16 14:40   ` Larysa Zaremba
2024-12-16 18:31     ` [EXTERNAL] " Shinas Rasheed
2024-12-17 16:37       ` Larysa Zaremba
2024-12-16  7:58 ` [PATCH net v2 3/4] octeon_ep_vf: fix race conditions " Shinas Rasheed
2024-12-16  7:58 ` [PATCH net v2 4/4] octeon_ep_vf: remove firmware stats fetch " Shinas Rasheed

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