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From: "Alexei Starovoitov" <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
To: "Michal Luczaj" <mhal@rbox.co>,
	"Daniel Borkmann" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	"Andrii Nakryiko" <andrii@kernel.org>,
	"Eduard Zingerman" <eddyz87@gmail.com>,
	"Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi" <memxor@gmail.com>,
	"Martin KaFai Lau" <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
	"Song Liu" <song@kernel.org>,
	"Yonghong Song" <yonghong.song@linux.dev>,
	"Jiri Olsa" <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	"Emil Tsalapatis" <emil@etsalapatis.com>,
	"Ihor Solodrai" <ihor.solodrai@linux.dev>,
	"Shuah Khan" <shuah@kernel.org>,
	"John Fastabend" <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	"Lorenz Bauer" <lmb@cloudflare.com>
Cc: <bpf@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Sashiko" <sashiko-bot@kernel.org>,
	"Jakub Sitnicki" <jakub@cloudflare.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next 2/3] bpf, sockmap: Restrict iter-context sockmap updates to iter/sockmap
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2026 19:40:33 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DM92JCFA4X4U.30MTDH0KCPTJ@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a9ba4549-4bae-4516-85ef-ee38f13551cd@rbox.co>

On Mon, Oct 19, 2026 at 08:20 AM Michal Luczaj <mhal@rbox.co> wrote:
> On 10/17/26 01:52, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
>> unix_state_lock() in bpf_iter_unix_seq_show() was added only for
>> unix_stream_bpf_update_proto() called from the iter prog.
>> iter/unix cannot get there anymore.
>> can we drop it ? can be a follow up...
>
> So we don't care about having a stable socket state while iterating? Which
> is the case for iter/sockmap, but is unlike iter/{tcp,udp}.

Not sure. Is there a value?

> I'm not sure I see the (stream sock) issue above. psock->sk_pair holds the
> peer, so peer pointer remains valid during proto update. iter/sockmap is
> safe, because sk is held by RCU. And for iter/unix we currently take
> unix_state_lock().

got it. you're right.

>> Should we restrict it to ctx->sk somehow?
>
> I recall a discussion about having BPF helpers accept only trusted
> pointers:
> https://lore.kernel.org/bpf/CAADnVQK_93g_KkNFYXSr8ZvA1fYh4hoFRJCJFPS-zs4ox0HhAA@mail.gmail.com/
> Restricting only iter/unix seems better?

we just discussed at bpf sync meeting that it's time to
finally remove plain PTR_TO_BTF_ID.
Otherwise we keep hitting this bug everywhere.

in the meantime can we do it for this one arg ?
Mark ctx->sk as PTR_TRUSTED in sock_map_iter_reg
like iter/tcp and iter/udp do ?

  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-19 19:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-16 21:09 [PATCH bpf-next 0/3] bpf, sockmap: Restrict iter-context sockmap updates to sockmap iterators Michal Luczaj
2026-10-16 21:09 ` [PATCH bpf-next 1/3] selftests/bpf: Remove sockmap update from bpf_iter_unix Michal Luczaj
2026-10-16 21:09 ` [PATCH bpf-next 2/3] bpf, sockmap: Restrict iter-context sockmap updates to iter/sockmap Michal Luczaj
2026-10-16 23:52   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-10-19 15:20     ` Michal Luczaj
2026-10-19 19:40       ` Alexei Starovoitov [this message]
2026-10-19 11:16   ` Jakub Sitnicki
2026-10-19 15:20     ` Michal Luczaj
2026-10-16 21:09 ` [PATCH bpf-next 3/3] selftests/bpf: Add negative test for sockmap update from non-sockmap iter Michal Luczaj

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