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From: "Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>
To: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"Philipp Stanner" <phasta@kernel.org>,
	"Sumit Semwal" <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Yury Norov" <yury.norov@gmail.com>,
	"Rasmus Villemoes" <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk>,
	"Tvrtko Ursulin" <tvrtko.ursulin@igalia.com>,
	"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Cc: <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>, <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Linux-Arch" <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] asm-generic/bitops: Add set_bit_release()
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2026 12:54:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DMAHVQLCMQAN.3G0TBMA1UTM6H@garyguo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9f4bbc9a-fc36-4e3a-9c42-d18419c9d025@app.fastmail.com>

On Wed Oct 21, 2026 at 12:33 PM BST, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2026, at 11:55, Philipp Stanner wrote:
>> The kernel already has test_bit_acquire(). A set_bit_release(), however,
>> was missing so far. It can be expected to be useful for parties that
>> need release ordering, but not the stricter full ordering of the other
>> bit-setting functions.
>>
>> Add set_bit_release().
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Philipp Stanner <phasta@kernel.org>
>
>> +/**
>> + * set_bit_release - Set a bit with release ordering
>> + * @nr: Bit to set
>> + * @addr: Address to start counting from
>> + *
>> + * This is an atomic ordered operation (implied write memory barrier).
>> + */
>
> Can we fix the mismatch between code comments and documentation for
> the set_bit()/clear_bit()/change_bit() barrier semantics while adding
> this? I'm always confused by this and the new function makes it harder
> to understand in the current form:
>
> - Your patch description mentions that set_bit() has strong rw
>   barrier semantics and that set_bit_release() would be a weaker
>   write-barrier version of it. This makes sense given the
>   set_bit() implementation based on strong raw_atomic_long_or()
>   in arch_set_bit() and the text in Documentation/memory-barriers.txt
>
> - Contrary to that, the kerneldoc comment over set_bit() mentions
>   "This is a relaxed atomic operation (no implied memory barriers)"
>   and leaves out the kcsan_mb() that is in test_and_set_bit().
>   This makes the new set_bit_release() sound like a /stronger/
>   version of set_bit() the same way that test_bit_acquire()
>   is a stronger version of the (relaxed) test_bit().

set_bit has relaxed semantics while test_and_set_bit implies barrier. RISC-V for
exmaple will generate the amoor instruction for set_bit, not amoor.aqrl.

Best,
Gary

>
> As I understand it, the kerneldoc comments here are incorrect
> and trace back to the include/asm-i386/bitops.h file before the
> git era. The patch below should make them consistent with your
> patch and with the actual implementation.
>
>        Arnd


  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-21 11:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-21  9:55 [PATCH 0/2] dma-fence: Order is-signaled-bit Philipp Stanner
2026-10-21  9:55 ` [PATCH 1/2] asm-generic/bitops: Add set_bit_release() Philipp Stanner
2026-10-21 11:33   ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-10-21 11:54     ` Gary Guo [this message]
2026-10-21 12:15       ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-10-21 12:06   ` Gary Guo
2026-10-21 12:17     ` Philipp Stanner
2026-10-21 12:24       ` Gary Guo
2026-10-21 13:22         ` Philipp Stanner
2026-10-21  9:55 ` [PATCH 2/2] dma-buf/dma-fence: Order setting of the signaled-bit properly Philipp Stanner

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